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Herman Cain: For real or not

Is Herman Cain for Real?

  • Yes he can win the nomination

    Votes: 6 20.7%

  • No, He's just the GOP's flavor of the week

    Votes: 12 41.4%

  • Other/Unsure

    Votes: 7 24.1%

  • Something else. Like maybe a Turtle

    Votes: 4 13.8%
  • Total voters
    29
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New polls have come out today, showing Herman Cain with large primary leads in West Virginia, North Carolina, Nebraska, and a 24 point lead in his home state of Georgia. This is coupled with some strong momentum in national polling over the last two weeks. So what do you think? Does he have a real chance of winning the nomination or is he just the current holder of the "Anyone but Romney" weak support right now? I personally think he will fade in the coming three months as this "Anyone but Romney" feeling continues to cycle between Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and maybe Palin if she decides to run.
 
Anagram said:
New polls have come out today, showing Herman Cain with large primary leads in West Virginia, North Carolina, Nebraska, and a 24 point lead in his home state of Georgia. This is coupled with some strong momentum in national polling over the last two weeks. So what do you think? Does he have a real chance of winning the nomination or is he just the current holder of the "Anyone but Romney" weak support right now? I personally think he will fade in the coming three months as this "Anyone but Romney" feeling continues to cycle between Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, and maybe Palin if she decides to run.
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He's doing well in the debates, has a solid business background, presents actual ideas and plans rather than just talking points...yeah...I would say he is for real. That doesnt mean he will be or even should be the GOP candidate...but he is as likely a 'real' candidate as there is. Paul is unelectable, Bachmann has been painted as a moonbat and marginalized, Perry is...well...Perry (why did he run again?). Huntsman is probably the best candidate of the group...virtually guaranteeing he will get no press attention.
 
He's always had my vote, even before he announced.
 
VanceMack said:
He's doing well in the debates, has a solid business background, presents actual ideas and plans rather than just talking points...yeah...I would say he is for real. That doesnt mean he will be or even should be the GOP candidate...but he is as likely a 'real' candidate as there is. Paul is unelectable, Bachmann has been painted as a moonbat and marginalized, Perry is...well...Perry (why did he run again?). Huntsman is probably the best candidate of the group...virtually guaranteeing he will get no press attention.
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Fair enough, I could see the support staying with the cast of candidates around him. I am just not ready to commit to it yet considering how fickle the support has been. Remember two months ago when Bachmann was the candidate to pit against Romney. Or last month when it was Perry. Now Cain seems like he could be a stronger candidate than either of them, but we shall see.
 
He's intellectually empty.

Although the GOP doesn't necessarily oppose that.
 
He could be a dark horse candidate.
 
Right now I am very lacking in confidence in having any clue how the republican primary will turn out. It's going to be a really interesting election season.
 
I voted other.
I dint really like any of the other answers.

He could make some noise in the GOP, seems these days anybody can and because of that i think anything is possible in that camp.
That being said, I answered other mainly because no matter if he gets the nod or not he wil never be president. He is a shock jock and to much of what moderates and independents don't want. He will consist too much of blind attacks, bias empty rhetoric and super partisanship than substance to be president. He and many like him on the left and right are part of the problem with politics and not part of the solution.

Serious to make noise? Maybe
Serious for president? nope
 
Swizz said:
He's intellectually empty.

Although the GOP doesn't necessarily oppose that.
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You couldnt come close to filling his intellectual jock strap. I find it as idiotic and amusing when people like you challenge someone like his intelligence as when some redneck calls Obama stupid. Disagree with his positions all day long...but challenge his intellect? Go ahead...match up credentials. FM
 
Redress said:
Right now I am very lacking in confidence in having any clue how the republican primary will turn out. It's going to be a really interesting election season.
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This late into it, if people are still quivering for Christie or panting for Palin (please good lord no) then I have to agree...this thing could land any of a dozen ways.
 
Redress said:
Right now I am very lacking in confidence in having any clue how the republican primary will turn out. It's going to be a really interesting election season.
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This is how I feel. I really have no idea what's going to happen. There's a new GOP frunt runner every week and none of the candidates seem particularly confident or stable in themselves and their positions yet (at least to me).

I think it would be unwise to argue that anyone is "for real" yet.
 
VanceMack said:
This late into it, if people are still quivering for Christie or panting for Palin (please good lord no) then I have to agree...this thing could land any of a dozen ways.
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Christie is out, it is official. Palin at this point is very unlikely to run. I still have a hard time seeing any one but Romney win the nomination, but at this point, nothing would surprise me. About the only thing we can say for sure is Paul Huntsman and Santorum won't win.
 
I picked: No, He's just the GOP's flavor of the week

I don't think people want a former CEO as President, that would include Romney as well.
 
Centrist77 said:
I voted other.
I dint really like any of the other answers.

He could make some noise in the GOP, seems these days anybody can and because of that i think anything is possible in that camp.
That being said, I answered other mainly because no matter if he gets the nod or not he wil never be president. He is a shock jock and to much of what moderates and independents don't want. He will consist too much of blind attacks, bias empty rhetoric and super partisanship than substance to be president. He and many like him on the left and right are part of the problem with politics and not part of the solution.

Serious to make noise? Maybe
Serious for president? nope
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I only asked if he could win the nomination. I think he would be at a serious disadvantage against Obama for president.
 
Redress said:
Christie is out, it is official. Palin at this point is very unlikely to run. I still have a hard time seeing any one but Romney win the nomination, but at this point, nothing would surprise me. About the only thing we can say for sure is Paul Huntsman and Santorum won't win.
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Stewart did a pretty good bit on the Christie Palin speculation thing. Seriously...how many times does the guy have to say NO? And of course...if he DOES change course now...he would be eviscerated...and rightfully so. Palin...geez...the more she talks I just really cant see how ANYONE can take her seriously. She should adopt a strippergram persona...I mean...that might over-ride the encessant rambling and yammering.
 
Anagram said:
I only asked if he could win the nomination. I think he would be at a serious disadvantage against Obama for president.
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I know but I just think the rest is important.
If he is real or nor for nomination doesnt really matter much if he cant win, thats all.
 
Voted other-unsure. I'm beginning to wonder if the neo-cons are getting FoxNews and the pundit to push a lot of Tea Party candidates into the limelight so their vote will be fragment enough to make Romney the nominee.
 
Via Nate Silver: "Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Trump, Giuliani, Romney, Palin, Gingrich, Huckabee and Christie have all led at least 1 national poll this year."

Next week it'll probably be someone else.

I really hope the GOP doesn't nominate a nobody after going so hard against Obama for his inexperience (rightfully so, imo). But can you blame them? They have nobody. The field is a joke. I really hope someone viable realizes this and jumps into the field, but they're running out of time; there's only a few weeks before the first filing deadlines.

It's also kind of weird/disappointing that Huntsman seems to have taken a "I'm too damn sane for these right-wing crazies" campaign strategy. He's way more fiscally conservative than conservatives or misguidedly-adoring liberals give him credit for, yet torpedoed himself and blew what might have been a good chance at the nomination. I don't get it. Maybe he really is more moderate than his record would suggest?
 
Dav said:
Via Nate Silver: "Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Trump, Giuliani, Romney, Palin, Gingrich, Huckabee and Christie have all led at least 1 national poll this year."

Next week it'll probably be someone else.

I really hope the GOP doesn't nominate a nobody after going so hard against Obama for his inexperience (rightfully so, imo). But can you blame them? They have nobody. The field is a joke. I really hope someone viable realizes this and jumps into the field, but they're running out of time; there's only a few weeks before the first filing deadlines.

It's also kind of weird/disappointing that Huntsman seems to have taken a "I'm too damn sane for these right-wing crazies" campaign strategy. He's way more fiscally conservative than conservatives or misguidedly-adoring liberals give him credit for, yet torpedoed himself and blew what might have been a good chance at the nomination. I don't get it. Maybe he really is more moderate than his record would suggest?
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He is the only one I thought that had a chance to actually compete if he got the chance but that seems unlikely.

I have no clue why parties get so crazy when things dont go there way and they just want to rally and scream and attack with no substance. It wont work.

Its what happened to Kerry VS Bush, the whole campaign was "bush sucks", while I thought that was true and so did many americans that alone doesnt win elections. WHy? because ANYBODY can do it.

If people want Obama out I know one thing is for sure, who ever they get to run against him better have more to run on then "Obama sucks" :shrug:
 
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Centrist77 said:
He is the only one I thought that had a chance to actually compete if he got the change but that seems unlikely.

I have no clue why parties get so crazy when things dont go there way and they just want to rally and scream and attack with no substance. It wont work.

Its what happened to Kerry VS Bush, the whole campaign was "bush sucks", while I thought that was true and so did many americans that alone doesnt win elections. WHy? because ANYBODY can do it.

If people want Obama out I know one thing is for sure, who ever they get to run against him better have more to run on then "Obama sucks" :shrug:
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That's the real problem with Mitt Romney. Nobody really wants him to be president, they would just want him to be president more than Obama.
Given his high chances of being nominated, I can see why so many conservatives are turning to anyone they can find with something - anything - to bring to the table, other than "not Obama".
 
If this battle spreads it will only help romny ...and hurt the far right... Has the traditional GOP finally had enough of a handful of teapartiers hijacking the agenda, I think so ...I think theres lots going on behind the GOP scene...that isnt being reported

A top House Republican on Tuesday attacked conservative tax activist Grover Norquist in a blistering floor speech, saying his no-taxes pledge has “paralyzed” Congress from tackling the deficit.
In a short but powerful speech, Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), laid out a remarkable indictment against one of the most powerful figures in conservative politics.


Frank Wolf rips Grover Norquist for ?paralyzing? Congress - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com
 
Dav said:
Via Nate Silver:
It's also kind of weird/disappointing that Huntsman seems to have taken a "I'm too damn sane for these right-wing crazies" campaign strategy. He's way more fiscally conservative than conservatives or misguidedly-adoring liberals give him credit for, yet torpedoed himself and blew what might have been a good chance at the nomination. I don't get it. Maybe he really is more moderate than his record would suggest?
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I agree with this. Huntsman is more conservative than the media makes him out to be. Really the only moderate positions he has are that he's for civil unions and he believes in anthropogenic global warming. Since those are the two areas that I most break with conservatism, he is my dream candidate.
 
Anagram said:
I only asked if he could win the nomination. I think he would be at a serious disadvantage against Obama for president.
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Nobody is going to have a serious disadvantage against Obama.

Cain's biggest plus is that he is not Perry or Romney.
 
VanceMack said:
You couldnt come close to filling his intellectual jock strap. I find it as idiotic and amusing when people like you challenge someone like his intelligence as when some redneck calls Obama stupid. Disagree with his positions all day long...but challenge his intellect? Go ahead...match up credentials. FM
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Have you even been paying attention to the campaign? Have you heard the guy speak?
 
1Perry said:
Nobody is going to have a serious disadvantage against Obama.
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I hope that there aren't too many Republicans who delude themselves into thinking this. Otherwise they'll have to find out they were wrong the hard way.
 
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