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How long will you "blame Bush"?

How long will you blame Bush

  • Less than one more year

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ah, so Clinton did NOTHING to prevent future attacks after the WTC bombing.

that's quite a claim. too bad its totally dishonest, as Clinton did a lot to fight international terrorism.

and a damn fine job he did too :roll:
 
At least Clinton tried, unlike the chimp who followed him.

talk about dishonest.

how many attacks were there during the Bush years? now compare to the number during Clinton.
 
talk about dishonest.

how many attacks were there during the Bush years? now compare to the number during Clinton.
Apples and Oranges - most of the GWB presidency was after 9/11 when security was tightened up globally and domestically -- and when most countries decided working together against terrorists was a really good idea. Those things would have happened post 9/11 regardless of who was in office so GWB doesn't get the credit for this one.
 
talk about dishonest.

how many attacks were there during the Bush years? now compare to the number during Clinton.

9-11 changed everything, especially our security apparatus. Bush's failure led to seriously needed changes.
 
Apples and Oranges - most of the GWB presidency was after 9/11 when security was tightened up globally and domestically -- and when most countries decided working together against terrorists was a really good idea. Those things would have happened post 9/11 regardless of who was in office so GWB doesn't get the credit for this one.

bolded: IOW Bush did something to prevent future attacks. Clinton did not. :ssst: oopsie
 
bolded: IOW Bush did something to prevent future attacks. Clinton did not. :ssst: oopsie

Clinton did a lot to prevent future attacks, that's why there were no further terror attacks on the American homeland during his term. Then the CIC "Chimp-in-Chief" took over and 8 months later we had 9-11.

I am confident that had Clinton's term extended through the end of 2001, 9-11 would not have taken place.
 
9-11 changed everything, especially our security apparatus. Bush's failure led to seriously needed changes.

and Clinton's failure did not lead to any changes. if they had 9-11 would not have happened
 
Clinton did a lot to prevent future attacks, that's why there were no further terror attacks on the American homeland during his term.

does the name Tim Mcviegh ring a bell? :lamo :lamo oopsie, you failed again :lamo



I am confident that had Clinton's term extended through the end of 2001, 9-11 would not have taken place.

am I am confident that if pigs had wings....they still could not fly
 
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more dishonesty. several changes were made following the first WTC bombing.

none of which prevented the oklahoma city bombing or 9-11. :failpail:

If Clinton had done his job, Bush wouldn't have needed to make any changes to prevent 9-11. :lamo
 
none of which prevented the oklahoma city bombing or 9-11. :failpail:

If Clinton had done his job, Bush wouldn't have needed to make any changes to prevent 9-11. :lamo

oscar, you and grim make a great pair. you never, ever offer anything BUT your sorry ass opinion.
 
bolded: IOW Bush did something to prevent future attacks. Clinton did not. :ssst: oopsie
Actually both made some efforts - Congress was willing to put for more $$$ toward security after 9/11 and global cooperation in sharing knowledge about terrorists activities increased after 9/11.

BTW, I guess Obama deserves credit like GWB for no international terrorists attacks on his watch. ;)
 
If Clinton had done his job, Bush wouldn't have needed to make any changes to prevent 9-11. :lamo

Actually, every recent president before 9/11 is guilty of not doing the most obvious thing that could have prevented 9/11.

Banning all knives and sharp objects from being allowed on planes would have prevented 9/11 and it is just plain old common sense.

Hell, George Carlin had a bit about all the crazy the **** you could take on an airplane which made no sense.
 
oscar, you and grim make a great pair. you never, ever offer anything BUT your sorry ass opinion.

really? you want to side with thunder on any issue? :lamo


his words: 9-11 brought about much needed changes. well blow me down, if changes were needed after 9-11 they were needed before 9-11. why didn't Clinton make them when he was in charge?

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing
1996 - Atlanta Olympics bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

but I guess all those attacks never happened, it's just my opinion that they happened :roll: as usual, you :failpail:
 
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BTW, I guess Obama deserves credit like GWB for no international terrorists attacks on his watch. ;)

unless you count

1. June 1, 2009 - Little Rock, Arkansas - Muslim terrorist Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, opened fire on a U.S. military recruiting office. Private William Long was killed and Private Quinton Ezeagwula was wounded.

2. Nov 5th, 2009 - Muslim terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan - Fort Hood, Texas - killed 13 people and wounded 30 others.

3. Dec 25th, 2009 - Muslim terrorist Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempts to detonate an explosive on an aircraft enroute from Amsterdam to Detroit. During the incident, the suspect ignites himself on fire until he is extinguished and overpowered by two passengers.

4. May 1st, 2010 - New York City, New York, United States New York's Times Square was evacuated after the discovery of a car bomb. Suspect Shahzad Faisal is in custody.

;)
 
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.....1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing
1996 - Atlanta Olympics bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

ahh...so no more attacks by international terrorists upon the homeland?

not a bad record.

too bad Clinton wasn't still in office during 2001, or 9-11 would have been prevented.
 
none of which prevented the oklahoma city bombing...

again, perhaps if Bush had not dropped the ball 9-11 would not have occured.

the facts are clear: Bush made terrorism much less of a priority than it had been during the Clinton administration. 9-11 woke Bush up to his fatal errors.
 
ahh...so no more attacks by international terrorists upon the homeland?
strawman?

not a bad record.

yeah, that's only one terror attack per year, not a bad record at all :roll:

too bad Clinton wasn't still in office during 2001, or 9-11 would have been prevented.

how? the planning and preparations were done while Clinton was in office and he didn't prevent any of that?
 
again, perhaps if Bush had not dropped the ball 9-11 would not have occured.

the facts are clear: Bush made terrorism much less of a priority than it had been during the Clinton administration. 9-11 woke Bush up to his fatal errors.

got any proof? or is that, as your pal liblady sez, just your sorry ass opinion?

please, please give us some links to all the ways Bush reduced homeland security from Jan to Sep '01. specifically: what programs, policies and procedures that Clinton had in place did Bush remove that would've prevented 9-11?
 
strawman?...

no, it is a clear fact, not a strawman.

after the 1993 bombings, which took place only 1-month after Clinton took office, Clinton took international terrorism head-on, and prevented any further attacks by international terrorists against the homeland during his Presidency.
 
no, it is a clear fact, not a strawman.

wow, you obviously have no idea what a strawman is. :lamo do please look it up :lamo (here's a hint for you: I never said there were any more attacks by international terrorists against the homeland)
 
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really? wasn't it Clinton who gutted the intel community?
Nope, that wasn't Clinton. Clinton was the one who tripled the FBI's budget for counter-terrorism. Bush was the one who came into office and denied the FBI a budget increase for counter-terrorism.

Smooth move, huh?


wasn't it Clinton who refused to take bin Laden when he was offered on a silver platter?
Nope, that wasn't Clinton. The 9.11 Commission determined there was no evidence of that rumor being true and indeed, OBL had not committed any crimes against the U.S. by 1995 to even warrant extradition. Bush was the one who rejected a deal which would have led to OBL's arrest and extradition to a third-party country -- and that was after he was tied to the 9.11 attacks.

Smooth move again, huh?
 
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