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How long will you "blame Bush"?

How long will you blame Bush

  • Less than one more year

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Until this term is over

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Forever.

    Votes: 23 71.9%

  • I'm done blaming Bush.

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Total voters
    32
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
And you're ignoring all of these terrorist attacks under Bush ... because ... ???


Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans

2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003
1 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.

June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks. Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.

2005
Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.

2006
Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy is foiled.

2007
Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.

Dec. 11, Algeria: more than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.

2008
May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.

June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.

June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.

July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It's the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.

Aug. 18 and 19, Afghanistan: as many as 15 suicide bombers backed by about 30 militants attack a U.S. military base, Camp Salerno, in Bamiyan. Fighting between U.S. troops and members of the Taliban rages overnight. No U.S. troops are killed.

Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.

Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai's landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.​
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strawman. I am talking about clinton's performance and how it lead to 9-11. terror attacks under bush is another topic, one which i will be glad to discuss with you at another time.
 
OscarB63 said:
strawman. I am talking about clinton's performance and how it lead to 9-11. terror attacks under bush is another topic, one which i will be glad to discuss with you at another time.
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so you are going to ignore all terrorist attacks that took place after Bush took office?

huh.
 
Thunder said:
so you are going to ignore all terrorist attacks that took place after Bush took office?

huh.
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how was Bush going to stop stuff in sovereign nations
 
Thunder said:
you clearly have not been following the conversation.

Oscar blaims Clinton for allowing the USS Cole to be attacked.
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I am turtle, he is Oscar. confine your rants about Oscar's comments to Oscar.
 
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TurtleDude said:
how was Bush going to stop stuff in sovereign nations
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how was Clinton to do the same thing?
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What happens in other sovereign nations is beside the point.

The 1993 attack on the World Trade Center was an attack carried out on our own soil, by foreign terrorists—the very first of its kind. I can't condemn the Clinton Administration or the Bush Sr. Administration for failing to prevent it. Up to that point, I don't think anyone could have realized that we were that vulnerable to such an attack. Most of our clashes with terrorists had previously taken place on foreign soil, on the other side of the world from our own.

The Clinton Administration's reaction to the 1993 attack was pathetic and inadequate and ineffective, and is largely responsible for allowing these same terrorists the opportunity to attack us again, with considerably more success, twelve years later.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
..The Clinton Administration's reaction to the 1993 attack was pathetic and inadequate and ineffective,....
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so ineffective that international or even domestic terrorist groups failed to attack the US homeland again during the rest of the Clinton Administration.

..and then Shrub showed up, and 8 months later we had 9-11.

Thanks Shrub.
 
Thunder said:
so ineffective that international or even domestic terrorist groups failed to attack the US homeland again during the rest of the Clinton Administration.

..and then Shrub showed up, and 8 months later we had 9-11.

Thanks Shrub.
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You realize, of course, that the planning for that attack took much longer than eight months, and was well underway well before the 2000 elections, much less Bush's inauguration. As the attack was being planned, the attackers had no way of knowing—nor did they care—who would be President at the time the attack finally took place. They had the Clinton Administration's inaction and incompetence to create the opportunity for them to carry out this attack, and they reasonably expected that even if we got a competent President in place in the next election cycle, that they would be able to carry out the attack before the new President had time to recognize the threat and act on it anyway.

I do not think there is any case that can possibly be plausibly made, that, had Clintons' term somehow extended another year, that with him still as President, that the 9/11 attacks would not have taken place exactly the same way they did with Bush as President. Clinton's administration, in spite of the warning in 1993, had done nothing of any value to prevent such an attack.

We could speculate about how 9/11 might have played out differently—if at all— if the new administration had been in power long enough to have had time to do anything about that threat; but that would only be speculation.
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
You realize, of course, that the planning for that attack took much longer than eight months, and was well underway well before the 2000 elections, much less Bush's inauguration..
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Yes, and based on the clear FACT that Clinton took terrorism much more seriously than Shrub, its only intelligent to assume that had Clinton been in office during the rest of 2001, the attacks would have been discovered and prevented.
 
clinton's impotent response to WTC I is what embolden Osama Bin Wasted to plan the second attack and commence it under clinton's regime
 
Thunder said:
Yes, and based on the clear FACT that Clinton took terrorism much more seriously than Shrub, its only intelligent to assume that had Clinton been in office during the rest of 2001, the attacks would have been discovered and prevented.
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More myths and more surrealistic BS
 
Bob Blaylock said:
I guess you think that posting threats via private messages is better?
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If someone is making threats towards you then you should report them. No need to try to bring it up in threads.
 
Kali said:
If someone is making threats towards you then you should report them. No need to try to bring it up in threads.
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No need. It's not like the threat came from anyone who has any power to actually do anything to me. The only thing making it at all relevant to anything is that the threat was posted to me, privately, at about the same time that the same person making that threat publicly accused and condemned me of behavior that was less inappropriate than the behavior of making that threat in private. It's only worth mentioning as an example of Thunderous hypocrisy.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
No need. It's not like the threat came from anyone who has any power to actually do anything to me. The only thing making it at all relevant to anything is that the threat was posted to me, privately, at about the same time that the same person making that threat publicly accused and condemned me of behavior that was less inappropriate than the behavior of making that threat in private. It's only worth mentioning as an example of Thunderous hypocrisy.
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I urge you to immediately report this threat upon you, to the Mods. There is no tolerance for threats of any kind here.
 
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Thunder said:
I urge you to immediately report this threat upon you, to the Mods. There is no tolerance for threats of any kind here.
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I'm not playing this Thunderous game any more with you. I've allowed you to bait me farther than I ought to have, into helping you derail this thread.

If any interest remains in the original topic of this thread, perhaps we should return to discussing that.
 
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