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Is it right?

Is it right to cheer for people's deaths.


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Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?
 
Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

I say not over such grave topics. It's no different than saying, "we have killed 220,000 enemy combatants in this war!" and getting cheers out of that. You can say you are patriotic, you can say those people are the enemy, but in the end, no matter how you look at it, you just cheered about 220,000 people dying.
 
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I cheered when I heard Osama bin Laden had been killed. So I guess I'm gonna have to go ahead and answer yes.
 
Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

Good question. Were you glad for bin Laden's death? Did you cheer?
 
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I cheered when I heard Osama bin Laden had been killed. So I guess I'm gonna have to go ahead and answer yes.

Honestly, I did as well. I even told a joke about it. But even when thinking about a mass murderer's death, I do not know that cheering is still the most sane nor moral reaction. It definitely seems much more acceptable.
 
Good question. Were you glad for bin Laden's death? Did you cheer?

No, I did not. I was happy that a grave threat to other people's lives had been prevented. But I did not cheer for his death. I do think bin Laden got what he deserved, but I was not happy he died.
 
by all means cheer if that's what floats your boat.

if you want to sound and act like the feral savages in the ME that cheer and carry on over someones execution then go for it.
 
by all means cheer if that's what floats your boat.

if you want to sound and act like the feral savages in the ME that cheer and carry on over someones execution then go for it.

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So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

Yes it is right when the person that died deserved it. There are all sorts of valid reasons to cheer the death of someone.Some of those reasons are Adolph Hitler, that scumbag that raped and murdered that little girl in Florida, that scumbag in California who spent twenty some odd years trying to weasel out of his punishment for the murder of four innocent people, the mass murderer who gets shot by someone else or his own gun and so on.
 
by all means cheer if that's what floats your boat.

if you want to sound and act like the feral savages in the ME that cheer and carry on over someones execution then go for it.

There is not one person in this whole entire world whose death you would cheer? A serial killer, child rapist, mass murdering dictator?
 
There is not one person in this whole entire world whose death you would cheer? A serial killer, child rapist, mass murdering dictator?

I think Sam Jackson can sum this one up:
 
The bible says it is ok, but John Donne said otherwise... "No man is an island... Therefore, ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee."

I believe Donne. I'm anti-death.
 
Is it ok to Cheer Bin Ladens death...yes in my mind it is....Would it be ok to cheer the death of another Ted Bundy...yes in my mind.
Is it ok to cheer a baby that was killed by someone shaking it to death.....this question has no YES or NO answer to me and people always cheered the death of badguys or supposed bad guys and always will
 
The reason it is not right is because they are a part of us. Their death in failure dimishes us. It's partly our fault not to have raised them right and/or fixed them. There's no glory in our failure. Does a shepherd celebrate the loss of sheep.
 
I don't think it matters to the dead person really, so that means it only matters how your cheering affects the living; and maybe that doesn't matter to you either.

I've laughed at death before, or even felt satisfied. But it might be a different context if the people around me are sensitive to the subject, or it were their loved ones.

Adapt accordingly I guess. You can't always control your immediate reaction to things. :shrug:
 
The reason it is not right is because they are a part of us. Their death in failure dimishes us. It's partly our fault not to have raised them right and/or fixed them. There's no glory in our failure. Does a shepherd celebrate the loss of sheep.

If it's a psychotic sheep killing sheep, then yeah, probably. It also means free mutton.
 
If it's a psychotic sheep killing sheep, then yeah, probably.
If the sheep is actively murdering, then killing it is correct and noble of course; however, celebrating the death is another thing. There's a difference between needing to do something and being happy about it. Some things just must be done, let's not pat ourselves on the back for every unfortunate step in the journey.

It also means free mutton.

There's no free lunch. But I wouldn't expect a commie ("from abilty to need") to understand.
 
There is not one person in this whole entire world whose death you would cheer? A serial killer, child rapist, mass murdering dictator?

just what is there to rejoice over? what is going to change as a result?

it's not going to make someone we loved who has been taken from us magically reappear.
 
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Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

Its way past high time we joined the civilized world and stopped these executions.
People who cheer others being executed... this is far from being civil....its downright sick...is this really us ??, or is it a tiny minority of extremists (mentally sick)??
 
Do people who are guilty of committing heinous crimes like child rape and murder deserve to die - yes.

Have we executed people who are not guilty of the crimes they are convicted of - yes.

Until we are 100% certain that all inmates executed are 100% guilty of the crimes they've been charged with, I personally won't cheer.
 
Do people who are guilty of committing heinous crimes like child rape and murder deserve to die - yes.

Have we executed people who are not guilty of the crimes they are convicted of - yes.

Until we are 100% certain that all inmates executed are 100% guilty of the crimes they've been charged with, I personally won't cheer.

I won't necessarily cheer, but I will support it. From the data we have, the number executed who were later proven innocent pales in comparison to the number of innocent lives lost by murderers being set free and killing again. People argue that there is a significant difference between an ordered execution and a murderer killing randomly, but I focus on which is for the greater good. Plain and simple, fewer innocent lives lost is better.
 
Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

I could care less about cheering . .. I want to focus on "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?"

I'd answer maybe. It depends on what the issue is - what are they dying from. A preventable disease that's costly to cure - but currable? A self inflicted condition related to obesity from overeating or alcohol consumption? Or something that's out of their control like a car accident or some such? If they CHOOSE not to do something and they KNOW the risks then they are CHOOSING those risks and are ACCEPTING what that means for them in their life.

But there's nothing wrong with giving aid and expecting to be paid for time, assistance and services rendered.

But let's not forget that the cost of medical care when up BECAUSE of the insurance industry gaining dominance. The cost rose because it COULD rise. So healthcare is so expensive BECAUSE of the insurance industry - not because people don't have insurance.
 
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I won't necessarily cheer, but I will support it. From the data we have, the number executed who were later proven innocent pales in comparison to the number of innocent lives lost by murderers being set free and killing again. People argue that there is a significant difference between an ordered execution and a murderer killing randomly, but I focus on which is for the greater good. Plain and simple, fewer innocent lives lost is better.

Interesting.

I am in support of the death penalty, I just refrain from cheer, especially for a large group of executions I personally know nothing about, vs maybe a single execution like a Bin Laden where I know the backstory, ect.
 
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The people in the audience who screamed "Yeah" and applauded the death of a hypothetical person are:

1. People who have never faced the death struggle of someone close to them.
2. People who are sociopathic.
3. People who are unable to reason conceptually.
4. People who have room temperature IQs.

I would venture to say that most, if not all, the people in the debate audience are but one life instant away from a catastrophic event that could render them penniless. Statistically it will happen to some of them before they die. Most all of them will face a disability before they die.
 
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