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Can Bachman or Perry beat Obama

Can Bachman and Perry beat Obama in 2012

  • Bachman Can Beat Obama

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Perry can Beat obama

    Votes: 19 40.4%
  • Neither of them can beat Obama

    Votes: 27 57.4%

  • Total voters
    47
Is this a joke of a question?
 
I must say that I enjoy watching Riverdad slap some folks around with the statistics. As far as things I don't care about, yeah Catawba...most of what you just listed. Also, HS drop-out rate. You're blaming a state on a reflection of society? If someone is going to drop out, I'd wager that their address is going to have less to do with it than their upbringing and general state of affairs - neither of which you can blame on the address.
 
..Texas outperforms the nation in all instances and basically mirrors Wisconsin's drop-out rate except for Wisconsin's glaring trouble with its African-American students, who have a drop-out rate that is higher than the national mean.

centuries of slavery & segregation can have such long-lasting tragic results.
 
You're from Wisconsin, so let's compare Texas to Wisconsin on educational outcomes:

2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

On every single metric, Texas outperforms the nation. On every single metric but one, Hispanic student 4th grade science education, Texas outperforms Wisconsin.

You wouldn't happen to be a Wisconsin unionized teacher would you? Making bold-faced assertions that directly contravene the evidence is something that teachers are known to do.

No sir. I am from Texas. I'm Texas born, Texas bred and when I die I will be Texas dead, laid to rest in my family cemetary dating back to the early 1800's in deep East Texas. I currently reside in Wisconsin but make no claim to citizenship here. I'm just passin' thru.

I know first hand the ****-shape Texas is in and it does my heart no good having to point it out.
 
No sir. I am from Texas. I'm Texas born, Texas bred and when I die I will be Texas dead, laid to rest in my family cemetary dating back to the early 1800's in deep East Texas. I currently reside in Wisconsin but make no claim to citizenship here. I'm just passin' thru.

I know first hand the ****-shape Texas is in and it does my heart no good having to point it out.

What falls out from your assessment is that if Texas is in ****-shape, and it beats the national mean, then the rest of America is worse off than Texas.
 
Texas has seen better days. But I can't help but love the place anyways. It's who I am and where I was born and raised.

But back to topic, Perry is pretty much considered a joke anywhere but Texas. I don't think the GOP will seriously run him for president.
 
If Obama continues do the wrong thing and not learn from his mistakes and keep going down in the polls a dead hamster could beat Obama.

Funny that those on the right keep saying that.....problem is.....the GOP doesn't even have a dead hamster to offer up yet.
 
Texas has seen better days. But I can't help but love the place anyways. It's who I am and where I was born and raised.

But back to topic, Perry is pretty much considered a joke anywhere but Texas. I don't think the GOP will seriously run him for president.

He's pretty much considered a joke in Texas. He didn't even win a majority vote...and he loses Texas to Obama in a head to head match up.
 
I must say that I enjoy watching Riverdad slap some folks around with the statistics. As far as things I don't care about, yeah Catawba...most of what you just listed. Also, HS drop-out rate. You're blaming a state on a reflection of society? If someone is going to drop out, I'd wager that their address is going to have less to do with it than their upbringing and general state of affairs - neither of which you can blame on the address.

You can choose to ignore that Texas is doing much poorer than the national average in many important areas, if you wish. If you do not care about public health, education, and the environment, what do you care about?
 
He's pretty much considered a joke in Texas. He didn't even win a majority vote...and he loses Texas to Obama in a head to head match up.

Seriously? I didn't realize there were that many people in Texas who actually thought things through. They must be transplants from other states.
 
27 people honestly think Bachmann can be elected president? I have a hard time believing that they really think that... I suspect a lot of them don't actually think she could win, they just want to express that they don't like Obama... Right? Nobody actually believes somebody like Bachmann could actually be president of the United States do they?
 
27 people honestly think Bachmann can be elected president? I have a hard time believing that they really think that... I suspect a lot of them don't actually think she could win, they just want to express that they don't like Obama... Right? Nobody actually believes somebody like Bachmann could actually be president of the United States do they?

Hey, some people will believe anything they hear on FAUXNews. There is no shortage of intellectually challenged voters in America. But, the good news is, most Americans ARE smarter than that and it pretty much renders the challenged insignificant. Give them their 15 seconds of spotlight. Don't be hatin'. LOL!
 
With the economy in the state it is right now, I think my cats could beat Obama.
 
Catawba said:
You can choose to ignore that Texas is doing much poorer than the national average in many important areas, if you wish. If you do not care about public health, education, and the environment, what do you care about?

The economy. Employment. Taxes. All of these rank so much higher than the hippie BS you just listed, it's not even in the same ballpark.

You want a huge oil-producing state to have strict environment laws? You want to force kids that don't want to go to school to do so against their will? You want to force people who can't afford (or don't need) insurance to accept it at gunpoint? Sorry, I have more compassion than to force unwanted things upon people. If the fight against an entitlement nanny state involves some 40 year olds working at Wal-mart for no benefits and a little more coming out of the smoke stack, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
 
With the economy in the state it is right now, I think my cats could beat Obama.

I don't know if that is true. Maybe. But I do know that your cats would definitely do waaaay better than Michelle Bachmann.
 
With the economy in the state it is right now, I think my cats could beat Obama.

Perhaps you should get your cats to run then, because the polls show all the current crop of GOP presidential wanna-be's rated lower than Obama in a match up.
 
He's pretty much considered a joke in Texas. He didn't even win a majority vote...and he loses Texas to Obama in a head to head match up.

That speaks volumes when the people in his own state prefer Obama to him.
 
If it is not Romney or someone else that can appeal to the center Independents - the GOP should just phone it in next year. Of course, given the make-up of their primary base - fat chance it will be Romney. This is a party that made a deal with the devil and now is possessed and that head spin hurts like hell.
 
The economy. Employment. Taxes. All of these rank so much higher than the hippie BS you just listed, it's not even in the same ballpark.

You want a huge oil-producing state to have strict environment laws? You want to force kids that don't want to go to school to do so against their will? You want to force people who can't afford (or don't need) insurance to accept it at gunpoint? Sorry, I have more compassion than to force unwanted things upon people. If the fight against an entitlement nanny state involves some 40 year olds working at Wal-mart for no benefits and a little more coming out of the smoke stack, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

That is exactly the type of short-sighted greed thinking that has our country where it is today.

And, Perry's jobs' claim is more horse manure than would fit in his ten gallon hat, as has been exposed:

Perry’s job creation myth on MSN Video
 
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Perhaps you should get your cats to run then, because the polls show all the current crop of GOP presidential wanna-be's rated lower than Obama in a match up.

The debates haven't started yet. Right now the Republicans are running for the nomination. They haven't started debating Obama yet. The same thing was said about Reagan and Carter when the 1980 election was getting started. The Democrats said Reagan was unelectable and Carter was beating him nearly 2 to 1 in the polls. The Reagan got the nomination and started coming after Carter with both barrels. We all know how that election turned out.
 
I don't think '80 will be repeated by anyone. You don't see people win elections in the fashion Kennedy, Nixon, and Reagan won anymore. Back then, every state was a swing.
 
you really think 1980 will be repeated with Bachmann????

lol

As much as I like her I don't think Bachmann is going to get the nomination. It's going to be between Obama and Perry and Perry is already putting me in mind of Ronald Reagan.
 
As much as I like her I don't think Bachmann is going to get the nomination. It's going to be between Obama and Perry and Perry is already putting me in mind of Ronald Reagan.

I have to agree that perry has a good chance...foxnews is PROMOTING HIM bigtime..hes come out as foxnews candidate of choice so they wont be reporting any negatives on him...but do not rule out Romney...the "PEOPLE" may choose him and not let perry be picked for them
 
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