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Are you smarter than The Obama?

Are you smarter than The Obama?

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PzKfW IVe said:
I'm particularly interested in what The Obama's supporters think, but responses from everyone are welcome.

Define "smart" however you'd like, though, obviously, not all definitions are sound.

Please be sure to explain your response.
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He obviously has a pretty remarkable academic record, better than mine (which is also pretty good by most people's standards), so in that sense no, I don't think I'm smarter than he is.

I do think he demonstrates the same political naivete that I see in democrats in higher office generally. I'm not sure if that makes me smarter than he is, or just more or less cynical about government.
 
Far too much attention to opinion; far too little to fact....and how does it matter anyway ???
Yes "smartness" is important, buts its just a part in the makeup of the man..He has had to endure a ton of intolerance and disrespect which would have cracked me....
IMO, "The Obama is smarter than I".
BFD !
 
So 53% of you think you're as smart or smarter than a law professor from a top 5 law school... So at least half the people on this board are like supreme court justices, major inventors, rhodes scholars, NASA scientists, etc? Who knew!?
 
teamosil said:
So 53% of you think you're as smart or smarter than a law professor from a top 5 law school... So at least half the people on this board are like supreme court justices, major inventors, rhodes scholars, NASA scientists, etc? Who knew!?
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1. Intelligence isn't necessarily linked to extraordinary careers.
2. I'm still young so...maybe. :lol:
 
theplaydrive said:
1. Intelligence isn't necessarily linked to extraordinary careers.
2. I'm still young so...maybe. :lol:
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I'm claiming it is just one of those things like that poll where 95% of people said they were a better than average driver.
 
He's had to have made some intelligent moves throughout his career to get to where he is now.

Aside from that he graduated Summa Cum Laude from Harvard.

I like to think I'm fairly intelligent (30 on the ACT, will soon have my Bachelor's and then a Master's down the road), but I don't have the drive or capability that he does.
 
teamosil said:
So 53% of you think you're as smart or smarter than a law professor from a top 5 law school... So at least half the people on this board are like supreme court justices, major inventors, rhodes scholars, NASA scientists, etc? Who knew!?
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On an intelligence level he's no genius. I'm tested between 129 and 136 IQ all my life, using multiple tests. Whether or not you or anyone else lends creedance to IQ tests is a different story. The man is academically smart. He's not stupid. He's misguided, he's misinformed by those around him and his character is what it is. I don't believe he's evil - he's just ineffective and has no business being the President. He'd make a good lawyer, a good CEO maybe, certainly someone in the private sector who would excel at his profession. Then again, "smarter" how? There's lots of different types of smart.
 
teamosil said:
So 53% of you think you're as smart or smarter than a law professor from a top 5 law school... So at least half the people on this board are like supreme court justices, major inventors, rhodes scholars, NASA scientists, etc? Who knew!?
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Smart people would recognize that Obama was not a law professor, he was a part-time lecturer who was hired because he was black.
 
RiverDad said:
Smart people would recognize that Obama was not a law professor, he was a part-time lecturer who was hired because he was black.
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Do you really think you can prove that you're smarter than Obama by blurting out idiotic white supremacist rhetoric? I hate to tell you, but that makes you look dumber, not smarter.

And he was a professor... He taught several standard law courses. His title was "lecturer" instead of "professor" because he wasn't tenure track. You don't sign up for tenure track unless you plan on teaching for the rest of your career. But he was definitely a full fledged professor. Full time, had his own classes like con law, etc.
 
teamosil said:
I'm claiming it is just one of those things like that poll where 95% of people said they were a better than average driver.
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Well yeah, there's probably a lot of delusion involved in the answers.
 
teamosil said:
So 53% of you think you're as smart or smarter than a law professor from a top 5 law school... So at least half the people on this board are like supreme court justices, major inventors, rhodes scholars, NASA scientists, etc? Who knew!?
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Being a law professor does not automatically qualify someone as super duper smart.
 
Ockham said:
I'm tested between 129 and 136 IQ all my life, using multiple tests.
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The average LSAT score at Harvard Law equates to an IQ of 141. So, a distinct step above your highest score and yes, 141 is in the genius range. And that's just the average. He came out magna cum laude, so he beat out most the students there, meaning his score was likely above average for Harvard Law.

Ockham said:
The man is academically smart. He's not stupid. He's misguided, he's misinformed by those around him and his character is what it is.
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So you're saying that he is smart but you disagree with his politics. That's fine.
 
RiverDad said:
Smart people would recognize that Obama was not a law professor, he was a part-time lecturer who was hired because he was black.
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The University of Chicago released a statement confirming that he was considered a professor. You don't know what you're talking about.
 
teamosil said:
Do you really think you can prove that you're smarter than Obama by blurting out idiotic white supremacist rhetoric? I hate to tell you, but that makes you look dumber, not smarter.

And he was a professor... He taught several standard law courses. His title was "lecturer" instead of "professor" because he wasn't tenure track. You don't sign up for tenure track unless you plan on teaching for the rest of your career. But he was definitely a full fledged professor. Full time, had his own classes like con law, etc.
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You slinging the "white supremacist" charge is like a monkey flinging its own poo.

The facts are that it is unheard of for a candidate applying to be a professor at law schools, never mind top law schools, to even be considered for the position without having a publication record of some kind, without having achievements of some kind, and Obama had nothing - he had no publications, he had no career achievements. He was black. University of Chicago Law School had an embarrassing shortage of black law school faculty.

UC had stacks of resumes of better qualified candidates but they weren't black. Why would a top tier law school choose to ignore better qualified applicants and instead decide to hire a man who had no qualifications for the job other than being a law school graduate who got press because he was a black man elected to the position of President of Harvard Law Review.

Simply put, his hiring at UC was just another affirmative action boost for Obama.
 
teamosil said:
The average LSAT score at Harvard Law equates to an IQ of 141. So, a distinct step above your highest score and yes, 141 is in the genius range. And that's just the average. He came out magna cum laude, so he beat out most the students there, meaning his score was likely above average for Harvard Law.
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I'm curious where you got that info. I'm asking because I want to find out what my LSAT score equates to.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Not really.
Academic smarts can sometimes shroud a true dumbass, I've known many.
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Eh. He got generally great reviews from students, Chicago kept him for 12? years and invited him several times for the tenure track. It's safe to say his professor status at Chicago is evidence of his intelligence.
 
Great reviews from students can mean nothing. Check out Rateaprof and Pickaprof to see what I mean.
 
RiverDad said:
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The facts are that it is unheard of for a candidate applying to be a professor at law schools, never mind top law schools, to even be considered for the position without having a publication record of some kind, without having achievements of some kind, and Obama had nothing - he had no publications, he had no career achievements. He was black. University of Chicago Law School had an embarrassing shortage of black law school faculty.
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He was the president of the Harvard Law Review - maybe you're unfamiliar with academia, but that's a pretty big thing. He did other stuff as well, but you can look that up on your own. You're racism and ignorance are showing. I suggest you leave now.
 
theplaydrive said:
Eh. He got generally great reviews from students, Chicago kept him for 12? years and invited him several times for the tenure track. It's safe to say his professor status at Chicago is evidence of his intelligence.
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I didn't say he was stupid but I don't hold the view that being credentialed, necessarily makes someone smart.
 
nota bene said:
Great reviews from students can mean nothing. Check out Rateaprof and Pickaprof to see what I mean.
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Actually, at UChicago, great student reviews mean a lot.
 
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