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Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president?

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Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Secession is a tool of the states against tyranny.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Hell no. On a surface level, that was an extremely unAmerican thing to consider, and I wouldn't want someone who might leave if a bunch of dumbs**ts in his state decide to. On a deeper level, a President that thinks secession is justifiable is something that should never happen. I devoutly believe this Union is inseperable, and it'll seperate over my dead body, and the bodies of millions of other Americans.

So, in short, this completely disqualifies Perry as a serious candidate for President, alongside Cain, Bachmann, Paul, and Santorum.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Legally the states have no right to secession. The Supreme Court ruled that in Texas vs White.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Maybe. Honestly i would not want a president who is currently saying this who is trying to run as one. But if the person did like lets say years ago and has had a change of heart then it would not really bother me..
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

It is a running meme here in Texas always has been. No one ever really took it seriously when I was growing up.

Parry is a dolt.
So is Gov. Perry.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Hell no. On a surface level, that was an extremely unAmerican thing to consider, and I wouldn't want someone who might leave if a bunch of dumbs**ts in his state decide to. On a deeper level, a President that thinks secession is justifiable is something that should never happen. I devoutly believe this Union is inseperable, and it'll seperate over my dead body, and the bodies of millions of other Americans.

So, in short, this completely disqualifies Perry as a serious candidate for President, alongside Cain, Bachmann, Paul, and Santorum.

That's a mighty big principled stand that you're taking there. I mean, just think about the sacrifice that it entails, you being a liberal and all.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

The word meme has become a meme.

As has the phrase no true Scotsman. Don't know what it means, stop reading when I see it. I digress.

I like Perry. He hates BO almost as much as I do. And if he doesn't win, Texas is soo outtta here. Will you really miss us? Fear us, yeah. But miss us?

We are divided. And bitter. One side needs to lose and lose bad. We're at a crossroads. We can choose entitlement or liberty, but can't have both. That's what Perry is saying.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

The word meme has become a meme.

As has the phrase no true Scotsman. Don't know what it means, stop reading when I see it. I digress.

I like Perry. He hates BO almost as much as I do. And if he doesn't win, Texas is soo outtta here. Will you really miss us? Fear us, yeah. But miss us?

We are divided. And bitter. One side needs to lose and lose bad. We're at a crossroads. We can choose entitlement or liberty, but can't have both. That's what Perry is saying.
Perry is a man who is completely out of touch with reality as shown by his prayer rally. I don't know how anyone could support a man who thinks our problems can be solved by praying to a dead Jewish rabbi who hasn't even been proven to exist. Seriously, just once I'd like to see presidential candidate who is a rationalist and doesn't buy into this superstitious nonsense.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Perry is a man who is completely out of touch with reality as shown by his prayer rally. I don't know how anyone could support a man who thinks our problems can be solved by praying to a dead Jewish rabbi who hasn't even been proven to exist. Seriously, just once I'd like to see presidential candidate who is a rationalist and doesn't buy into this superstitious nonsense.

I think you have one now.

edit: I take that back. BO believes he himself is infallible.
 
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Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

:shrug: He deserves to be president if he's elected to it, democracy sucks.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

:shrug: He deserves to be president if he's elected to it, democracy sucks.

Indeed. That's one good reason for the electoral college. (not to change the subject, but . . . you know.)
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

I think you have one now.

edit: I take that back. BO believes he himself is infallible.
Where did I ever say I support Obama? He's just another corporatist and his ridiculous religious beliefs don't help.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Where did I ever say I support Obama? He's just another corporatist and his ridiculous religious beliefs don't help.

Settle down there, big fella.

I'm just sayin ol Barack thinks mighty highly of himself. Maybe too highly. Needs taking down a peg or two. You don't hold for religion. That's your privilege. You ain't likely to find a viable candidate to your liking here.

Take that stuff somewhere else.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

My favorite line from his announcement speech:

I’ll guarandamn tee ya one damn thing, I’ll work every damn day to try to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your life as I can
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Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

Where did I ever say I support Obama? He's just another corporatist and his ridiculous religious beliefs don't help.

So you support small government Republicans as a Socialist? That'd be something new.

Of course Perry would deserve to be President. I guess the same question could have been asked about Obama and was I think: Should a person who smoked dope and did cocaine deserve to be President? I think the answer was yes.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

I don't see the act of considering succession to be anything that would/should disqualify an individual from being the POTUS. In fact, if the rest of his politics were better I'd seriously consider supporting Gov. Perry.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

That's a mighty big principled stand that you're taking there. I mean, just think about the sacrifice that it entails, you being a liberal and all.

I think what I think, and my thoughts don't necessarily adhere to any one school of thought/political leaning.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

No less than any person who entertains socialism deserves to be president. ;)
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

@repeter
Wait, are you saying that secession is un-American?

@U.S. Socialist
The court held that the US Constitution did not permit the state to unilaterally secede from the US but, the US Constitution is not about permitting or not permitting the states powers. The states granted and delegated the federal government’s limited powers and everything else was reserved to the states or the people (the 10th Amendment tried to make things clear).

Secession is our ultimate defense against federal tyranny…just as the American colonists seceded from the British Empire.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

No one "deserves" to be President.

Should be be elligable to be President? Yes. I think the whole sucession thing floated by him is stupid, but stupidity has never directly disqualified people before.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

No, and perry cant win because of that statement. How is that man going to get up in front of Americans and explain his actions? He will get destroyed in debates. I really dont think this guy will even come in 2nd for the GOP nomination. Americans dont want another Texas governor who claims god speaks to him. This is an example of insanity, not leadership. If Texas does succeed from the Union, I would love to see them try to make it on their own. All I have heard in the last 3 months is Texas needing government aid for their current droubt problems. Maybe someday a hurricane will smash Texas and we will see just how independent they can be. They wouldnt get federal aid in the form of food, water, citizen relocation, nothing. Its easy to say you dont need America until you need America. I say we kick them out. Let them handle their own disasters and poverty on their own. They are a state based on outdated christian beliefs and influence. They are the most racially biased state in America. They dont believe in the EPA, Clean energy, or enforcing gun restrictions. They are the only state that hates America and I would be 100% Ok with erasing them off the United States map. Any form of leadership thats EVER come out of Texas has done horrid for our nation anyways.
 
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Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

I though Texas had already seceded. We have our passports ready when we drive across on I40.
 
Re: Does a person who entertained succession from the country deserve to be president

I don't know how anyone could support a man who thinks our problems can be solved by praying to a dead Jewish rabbi who hasn't even been proven to exist.

Uhhhmm im not christian or anything, but its pretty well proven that there was a Jesus and he was sent to death by crucifiction by many historical sources.
 
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