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What purpose did the tax cut for the wealthiest serve?

I'm sorry, I'd much rather you have to wait a little longer, so we can make sure everyone gets covered. 30,000 people die every year in this country because they can't afford healthcare. 1 in 4 Americans who have insurance still don't get the care they need. Secondly, I'm sure the 6 month wait are either an exaggeration on your part or cheery picking.


sorry dude, If I can afford good healthcare, I don't want to wait behind someone whose health care I fund. Same with my kid, if the choice comes down to my son getting a CAT SCAN today that might save his life or you getting one paid for by my tax dollars I don't even have to think a second what I am going to take
 
yeah so why would I want canadian style healthcare?

If you are one of the minority of rich people, you probably wouldn't as you can afford the most expensive health care system in the world. It is the working class and the poor who are affected, and they will be the ones to force correction.
 
I have an objective basis for my claim

if you are part of a group that pays less of the federal income tax burden than your share of the income I can honestly note you are paying less than your fair share

Since you refuse to even state what you pay, and given your constant rants about the rich and your laughable lamentations about how bad "working people" have it its a fair assumption you are part of the group that pays less taxes than it objectively should

Turtle im going to try this just once...

Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..
 
sorry dude, If I can afford good healthcare, I don't want to wait behind someone whose health care I fund. Same with my kid, if the choice comes down to my son getting a CAT SCAN today that might save his life or you getting one paid for by my tax dollars I don't even have to think a second what I am going to take
So you're saying you don't mind if 30,000 people die as long as you don't have to wait or pay more taxes? Your greed is disgusting. It's clear you have no concern for your fellow man. It's all about you.

Your contempt for the poor is a very dangerous mindset, history has shown that eventually the oppressed do rise up against their oppressors and their money won't save them.
 
Turtle im going to try this just once...

Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..

Taxes are not the only factor that is at work here. For instance, the apartment rent is a function of land and building scarcity. The US population in 1950 was 152 million. It is currently 308 million. If there was no immigration during that period, the US population today would be perhaps 200 million. Increasing the size of the country by 50% imposes costs on everyone. Land is scarcer, and therefore more expensive. More roads and infrastructure have to be built meaning taxes go up meaning that there is less money available for income redistribution.

Immigration rates are not some unalterable force of nature while tax rates are something that can be changed on a whim.

That low wage Jersey worker is suffering the consequences from liberal policy choices - job scarcity because of high immigration, high rents because of land scarcity, high taxes because of ever expanding infrastructure requirements, etc. Liberal policies have made his life worse and removed him from being a net contributor to society. The goal is to make him a net contributor to society but first we have to stop liberal attempts to make the lives of Americans worse off so that they can improve the lives of immigrants who invite themselves into America.
 
Turtle im going to try this just once...

Do you have the ability to understand that a married couple with two children...that both have labor jobs if they both make 12 bucks an hour...and live in NY or NJ...do you understand that they cant live in anything but a sewar...do you realize a two bedroom apt...just livable in NJ is a grand a month...in ny two grand or more, thats before all the extravagances like having electric and gas and buying food, and maybe some medicince for the kids.......and you truly believe that they should pay the exact same percentage taxs as a very rich person...and you believe because they dont pay taxs they are parasites ? stealing from you..


why are they having two kids if that is the most they can make?
 
So you're saying you don't mind if 30,000 people die as long as you don't have to wait or pay more taxes? Your greed is disgusting. It's clear you have no concern for your fellow man. It's all about you.

Your contempt for the poor is a very dangerous mindset, history has shown that eventually the oppressed do rise up against their oppressors and their money won't save them.

greed is imposing costs on other people who are not responsible for your condition.

go ahead and riot and rise up dude. after that happens we net tax payers will have far less tax consumers to have to deal with
 
why are they having two kids if that is the most they can make?

Are there no workhouses, are there no prisons? Why should the rich have to give up their $58,000 average tax cut each year?
 
Are there no workhouses, are there no prisons? Why should the rich have to give up their $58,000 average tax cut each year?

If I have to support that dude's children does that mean I get bedroom privileges with his wife? I get those privileges with my wife for supporting our children.
 
If I have to support that dude's children does that mean I get bedroom privileges with his wife? I get those privileges with my wife for supporting our children.

What a sick, pathetic statement.
 
Human biology. Humans are wired to reproduce. It's a fact.

funny how the most wealthy and successful people tend to not be ruled by that versus the least educated

just sayin..............
 
If I have to support that dude's children does that mean I get bedroom privileges with his wife? I get those privileges with my wife for supporting our children.

that sort of humor is going to send the grim weepers into a frenzy

later RD good one
 
What a sick, pathetic statement.

He makes a good point. what benefit does he get for funding your excessive breeding?
 
What a sick, pathetic statement.

When I support his children then that effort makes my family poorer. I have an interest in my family's welfare, I don't have an interest in that stranger's welfare, especially so if it means that resources that I want to dedicate towards my family are not available to them.

You want a high sharing society but you're simultaneously creating a highly diverse society, peopled with groups who hold philosophies, practices and outlooks, which I utterly reject. I don't want to share with them because you've created too much diversity of values that I hold to be important. I will share with those to whom I've bonded or with whom I have some familiarity.

What you're doing is making me that man's keeper. I have the responsibility of providing for him and his family and I get none of the benefits.
 
greed is imposing costs on other people who are not responsible for your condition.

go ahead and riot and rise up dude. after that happens we net tax payers will have far less tax consumers to have to deal with
I'm sure that's what the nobles thought in France and Russia as well. That mindset didn't work out too well for them and it won't work out too well for our current nobility. Heed the words of FDR: "Reform if you would preserve."
 
He makes a good point. what benefit does he get for funding your excessive breeding?

What benefit do I get from the National debt for funding your tax cuts for the last 3 decades?
 
You think Bill Gates think about uncertainty,By the way, all those complaints about corporate
tax rates and hanging on to their precious loopholes, subsidies and Bush tax cuts? The Center for Tax
Justice, a nonprofit research and advocacy group, finds “the U.S. is already one of the least taxed
countries for corporations in the developed world” — as a percentage of GDP second only to, wait for
it, Iceland.
 
Taxes are not the only factor that is at work here. For instance, the apartment rent is a function of land and building scarcity. The US population in 1950 was 152 million. It is currently 308 million. If there was no immigration during that period, the US population today would be perhaps 200 million. Increasing the size of the country by 50% imposes costs on everyone. Land is scarcer, and therefore more expensive. More roads and infrastructure have to be built meaning taxes go up meaning that there is less money available for income redistribution.

Immigration rates are not some unalterable force of nature while tax rates are something that can be changed on a whim.

That low wage Jersey worker is suffering the consequences from liberal policy choices - job scarcity because of high immigration, high rents because of land scarcity, high taxes because of ever expanding infrastructure requirements, etc. Liberal policies have made his life worse and removed him from being a net contributor to society. The goal is to make him a net contributor to society but first we have to stop liberal attempts to make the lives of Americans worse off so that they can improve the lives of immigrants who invite themselves into America.

Illegal immigrants do not take good paying jobs...the job scarcity is corporations out of greed sending jobs to china and creating our greatest threat in the process
 
I'm sure that's what the nobles thought in France and Russia as well. That mindset didn't work out too well for them and it won't work out too well for our current nobility. Heed the words of FDR: "Reform if you would preserve."

deep down, when we strip away all the altruistic BS the far left uses as a pretext to justify their socialist cravings, what we are left with is the desire to loot and kill the rich
 
What benefit do I get from the National debt for funding your tax cuts for the last 3 decades?

that's a moronic claim-the tax cuts everyone else got resulted in more money than the tax cuts for those who pay most of the taxes. you didn't fund anything.
 
deep down, when we strip away all the altruistic BS the far left uses as a pretext to justify their socialist cravings, what we are left with is the desire to loot and kill the rich

Your cracking dude...when you strip away all the bs from the teaparty and your agenda...its to strip the entire country that isnt in the richest 10% of everything they have out of greed so they can have mOAR pigs at the trough....and the rich are murdering my country
 
I sincerly hope all working class individuals that read this thread read certain individuals posts...and realize how greed has permeated into the richs society like a disease that will devour the entire country unless WE the working class STOP this teaparty pigs at the trough thing thats going on right now
 
Obamas blank check? You all do realize Obama contributed maybe 10% to the total defecit right? Was it Obama's policies that lead us into the first depression since the 1930's, or was it Republican policies? Have bush tax cuts been in place for over a decade, while we still see a decline in job growth and businesses that are willing to hire? Its hard to use the arguement that tax cuts produce job growth when history and data shows the exact opposite. You dont cut government programs to reduce defecit, you give additional tax breaks to businesses that hire and move their factories/money back to American soil.....and tax the hell out of those that dont. Sometimes the solution doesnt completely lay on cutting essentials for the middle and lower class. The lower and middle classes are what makes the economy fuction. They buy the products and create the demand. By diminishing their ability to live, eat, and sleep with a roof over their head, almost 100% assures a failing economy. Those of you that still blame Obama for our economic problems need to wake up, quit basing your opinions on feelings, and understand it was the sole leadership of the GOP that lead us into this disaster, and not ONE man on this planet could be leading us in a better direction at this point. Congress is broken, The tea party has hijacked government, and the GOPs only goal is to make Obama fail. This will all come back to haunt the Republican party come election time.


All Obama has to do is push for job creating programs while insisting tax's must be increased on the top 3% of Americans to make it work. Is the GOP really going to refuse to support a job creation program that calls for additional revenue requirements from the wealthiest Americans in country? Poll after poll shows Americans want HIGHER TAXES put in place on the super rich, and at some point the GOP is going to have to give the American people what they want.

The GOP calls Obama a dictator... I think we are seeing the exact opposite. Im an independent voter and am not very impressed with the GOP right now.
 
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I sincerly hope all working class individuals that read this thread read certain individuals posts...and realize how greed has permeated into the richs society like a disease that will devour the entire country unless WE the working class STOP this teaparty pigs at the trough thing thats going on right now

I hope all objective people see what motivates most of the tax the rich crowd on this board
 
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