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Should the Embargo with Cuba be lifted?

Embargo?

  • End Embargo

    Votes: 53 84.1%
  • Keep Embargo

    Votes: 10 15.9%

  • Total voters
    63

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I think its time.

The US simply cannot claim its for human rights anymore, or to make sure they're not supporting a communist or totalitarian regime. Its a ludicrous argument and your foreign policy for the last 50 years does not stand up to scrutiny with it. The Cuban regime are puppy dogs compared to other regimes you have supported in the past.

With your trading policies with China since Nixon, you've basically single handedly made them one of the most powerful nations on Earth. Why all this hoohaw over Cuba?

The cold war is over and has been for a long time, opening up your markets to Cuba and restoring relations could very well hasten Cubas long road to democracy. Isolating it seems to have only strengthened the regime.

Oh wait yeah... we gotta win Florida with the large Cuban expat population.

How stupid of me :doh
 
Yeah, who knows if America could one day need Cuba's advice on how to treat political dissidents. After all the USA will probably turn into a totalitarian regime, if the gap between rich and poor keeps widening.
 
Yeah, I don't think it is necessary. Plus I'm tired of treating cuban cigars as contraband. I just want to smoke 'em in peace.
 
Yes, I have thought so for about 40 years.
 
Once you get rid of the embargo, it will be harder for the government to simply point to the "Colossus to the North" as to why they need to remain in power.
 
As long as Fidel is alive - keep the embargo. When he's finally worm food, lift it. So I had to vote "keep embargo". :(
 
As long as Fidel is alive - keep the embargo. When he's finally worm food, lift it. So I had to vote "keep embargo". :(

So you'd be fine if Fidel is dead but Raul is still in charge? I mean the dude has an artificial anus, he's pretty much dead or dying for all practical purposes
 
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So you'd be fine if Fidel is dead but Raul is still in charge? I mean the dude has an artificial anus, he's pretty much dead or dying for all practical purposes
Yeah probably would.
 
I voted to keep the embargo, until cubans stop trying to swim to fla something still stinks in cuba and if you talk to any cubans that have made it to florida...they tell a whole different side of fidel and cuba that we dont ever get to hear....hes a dirtbag...leave the embargo until a human being runs the country
 
I voted to keep the embargo, until cubans stop trying to swim to fla something still stinks in cuba and if you talk to any cubans that have made it to florida...they tell a whole different side of fidel and cuba that we dont ever get to hear....hes a dirtbag...leave the embargo until a human being runs the country

I dunno, I think if we lifted it we'd have more Cuban exiles coming over.
 
I dunno, I think if we lifted it we'd have more Cuban exiles coming over.

I think the pressure needs to stay till Fidel and his brother are no longer in charge...Leopards dont change their spots and if you go to south florida the cubans utterly hate fidel...there has to be reasons that we dont know for it to be that intense...
 
It should have been lifted 20 years ago.
 
Why?

Does your opinion have anything to do with what is best for the US? If so, how does your position benefit the US?

Who will benefit the most, the US or Cuba?
 
I think the pressure needs to stay till Fidel and his brother are no longer in charge...Leopards dont change their spots and if you go to south florida the cubans utterly hate fidel...there has to be reasons that we dont know for it to be that intense...

Well, there's the argument that the pressure would be a lot more effective if you lift the embargo. Just playing devil's advocate here, not saying i necessarily agree with that, but I think on the whole both countries would be better off if it's lifted.
 
I voted to keep the embargo, until cubans stop trying to swim to fla something still stinks in cuba and if you talk to any cubans that have made it to florida...they tell a whole different side of fidel and cuba that we dont ever get to hear....hes a dirtbag...leave the embargo until a human being runs the country

The problem with this is that the heavy-handed approach has not been working for 50 years. Why would it suddenly work in the next few years? The Castro Brothers are not terribly popular with the Cuban people, but as long as there is an embargo, they can just point to the boogeyman and say, "You need us. If it weren't for us, you would not survive against the Americans." Once the embargo is lifted, the Castros have nothing to fall back on. Increased trade would also improve the Cuban economy, and when people don't have to worry that much about where their next meal will come from they become a lot more observant of their government's abuses. Trying to strangle communism out of Cuba has only served to make it more entrenched. It is time for Washington to try a different way.
 
Well, there's the argument that the pressure would be a lot more effective if you lift the embargo. Just playing devil's advocate here, not saying i necessarily agree with that, but I think on the whole both countries would be better off if it's lifted.

That could very well be still...Im not adamantly opposed to it...Im basically conceding to the Cubans who im sure know more than I
 
The problem with this is that the heavy-handed approach has not been working for 50 years. Why would it suddenly work in the next few years? The Castro Brothers are not terribly popular with the Cuban people, but as long as there is an embargo, they can just point to the boogeyman and say, "You need us. If it weren't for us, you would not survive against the Americans." Once the embargo is lifted, the Castros have nothing to fall back on. Increased trade would also improve the Cuban economy, and when people don't have to worry that much about where their next meal will come from they become a lot more observant of their government's abuses. Trying to strangle communism out of Cuba has only served to make it more entrenched. It is time for Washington to try a different way.

ALot of what you say is true...and I believe alot of it especially with guys my age who lived through the cuban crisis...I know Fidel hates us deeply he wanted Russia to annihilate us...he tried to get Krushchev to nuke us...hence the missile sites in cuba that JFK rightfully took a firm stance against....Alot of it has been punishment and retribution that act of war against us..
 
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Our entire Cuba policy for the last 50 years has been utterly pathetic. Its a sad joke that we actually base our foreign policy on pettiness and inertia. There is absolutely no good reason for the embargo and yet nobody ever even bothers to question its existence on the political stage.
 
A question is not an answer. If you expect me to answer your question, then I'll expect you to answer my question

You didn't ask me the question. Now answer mine.
 
ALot of what you say is true...and I believe alot of it especially with guys my age who lived through the cuban crisis...I know Fidel hates us deeply he wanted Russia to annihilate us...he tried to get Krushchev to nuke us...hence the missile sites in cuba that JFK rightfully took a firm stance against....Alot of it has been punishment and retribution that act of war against us..

What a joke. Fidel hosted the missiles because he wanted protection after the bay of pigs coup attempt. I'd hardly get all morally outraged over the nukes when the U.S. had the exact same set up in Turkey. Fidel may be a bastard, but that isn't the point. U.S. foreign policy serves U.S. interests, not to cater to the greed and revenge of a tiny special interest group. Ending the embargo is in the American national interest and incidentally will benefit the Cuban people.
 
ALot of what you say is true...and I believe alot of it especially with guys my age who lived through the cuban crisis...I know Fidel hates us deeply he wanted Russia to annihilate us...he tried to get Krushchev to nuke us...hence the missile sites in cuba that JFK rightfully took a firm stance against....Alot of it has been punishment and retribution that act of war against us..

I lived in Florida when that was going on. Not a real fun time. However, I think we are not doing to Cuban people any justice by continuing the embargo. You can travel to Cuba from any other country with no problem, just not the US. Even we could go to Canada, then easily board a flight to Cuba.

This island is 90 miles from out coast, we should be taking a very different approach here. As long as Gitmo is operating we are giving the Castro Brothers a boogeyman to point at that the Cuban people can easily see.

Fidel hates the US because of our original heavy handed approach. He is our creation.
 
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