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Multiculturalism as a state policy, yes or no?

I bring this up as the man behind the Norway attacks did it on motivation from Norway's open doors policy on immigration.
 
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Absolutely not. We've gone far, far too far with this multiculturalism crap. If a people have nothing in common, then how can they form a cohesive nation with common interests?
 
Absolutely not. We've gone far, far too far with this multiculturalism crap. If a people have nothing in common, then how can they form a cohesive nation with common interests?

Come look at us up North.
 
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
At least in the States I see the beauty of the society as in different cultures coming together as one.
 
Most countries are describing ignoring the dangerous ideology of a hated-filled belief system such as Islam where they want all non-Muslims to convert or die as "multiculturalism". If that's what you're speaking of, then "no". However, having peaceful people from various cultures living and working together is a great thing.

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Most countries are describing ignoring the dangerous ideology of a hated-filled belief system such as Islam where they want all non-Muslims to convert or die as "multiculturalism". If that's what you're speaking of, then "no". However, having peaceful people from various cultures living and working together is a great thing.

www.thinktownusa.com

Could you restate that? I don't quite understand what you're saying.
 
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
At least in the States I see the beauty of the society as in different cultures coming together as one.

And that's cool if they come together as one. Take the best qualities from all, join them together into a cohesive whole and we're golden. The problem is, people want to take cultures wholesale, reject everything else, live as foreign communities and despise all others and then expect us to be a cohesive nation? It just doesn't work that way.
 
Absolutely not. We've gone far, far too far with this multiculturalism crap. If a people have nothing in common, then how can they form a cohesive nation with common interests?

what do we do with all the other people?
 
I'm not sure if I understand your question.
At least in the States I see the beauty of the society as in different cultures coming together as one.

if they all come together as one their will be just one wont it then their will no t be multi
 
Most countries are describing ignoring the dangerous ideology of a hated-filled belief system such as Islam where they want all non-Muslims to convert or die as "multiculturalism". If that's what you're speaking of, then "no". However, having peaceful people from various cultures living and working together is a great thing.

www.thinktownusa.com

like it is now?
 
I bring this up as the man behind the Norway attacks did it on motivation from Norway's open doors policy on immigration.

The Oslo shooter was an anti-social Nietzschean WoW-playing nutjob, I don't see what his 'politics' have to do with anything.
 
This Nation is supposed to be a melting pot and was for a long time for the most part with a few places like China Towns etc. where people tried to stay they way they had it one old country, but didn't try to change this Nation into China etc, today Mexicans have an agenda that says lets turn the U.S. into Mexico.

Don't believe it read about THE AZTLAN INVASION & THE LA RAZA FASCIST PARTY FOR MEXICAN SUPREMACY, until you do sit down and shut up.

Most Mexicans are good Americans but not all. Just like some Liberals can think for themselves but not all, and some Conservatives and Liberals are racists, but not all.

I have a close friend named Frank Valdez. His Dad crossed over illegally in the 40s but wanted to be an American and Frank was born here two years later and that's why he's Frank, a great American who calls himself Poncho because he's proud of his roots but he waves the American flag and he was once in City Government and sis a great job for the people. All the People.

Frank lived the dream his Dad wanted, and Frank helped him become a legal citizen because he wanted to be American, not a Mexican trying to turn this Nation into the crap hole he escaped from.
 
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This Nation is supposed to be a melting pot and was for a long time for the most part with a few places like China Towns etc. where people tried to stay they way they had it one old country, but didn't try to change this Nation into China etc, today Mexicans have an agenda that says lets turn the U.S. into Mexico.

Don't believe it read about THE AZTLAN INVASION & THE LA RAZA FASCIST PARTY FOR MEXICAN SUPREMACY, until you do sit down and shut up.

Most Mexicans are good Americans but not all. Just like some Liberals can think for themselves but not all, and some Conservatives and Liberals are racists, but not all.

I have a close friend named Frank Valdez. His Dad crossed over illegally in the 40s but wanted to be an American and Frank was born here two years later and that's why he's Frank, a great American who calls himself Poncho because he's proud of his roots but he waves the American flag and he was once in City Government and sis a great job for the people. All the People.

Frank lived the dream his Dad wanted, and Frank helped him become a legal citizen because he wanted to be American, not a Mexican trying to turn this Nation into the crap hole he escaped from.

The melting pot dried up a long time ago along with the dream of immigrants becoming an American. Now immigrants want to insert their society into the USA, and being "politically correct", many Americans would drastically change our society to appease them.
 
The US doesn't need the state policy for it. As far as figuring out whether or not the US needs to directly follow multiculturalist literature? No, it shouldn't. Multiculturalist literature prescribes ample examples of asking its citizens to be entirely too relativistic toward other cultures, other states. It also prescribes a model of "social justice" that can at times become ridiculously collectivist or ironically segregationist.

The United States does not need to follow academic models of multiculturalism, it should rather follow its more benevolent forms. Much of the time, it simply asks for inclusion. Americanization and assimilation models of the past did a poor job with many immigrants of removing far too much of their cultural or religious heritages at the same time as it completely ignored other cultures from even becoming Americanized.

I believe multiculturalism in the United States is mostly accepted, it is just not embraced as whole-heartedly as the academics want.
 
A nation's culture is its most precious possession. It must be vigilantly protected.
 
Multiculturalism as a state policy, yes or no?

I bring this up as the man behind the Norway attacks did it on motivation from Norway's open doors policy on immigration.
Fact or opinion ?
 
Absolutely not. We've gone far, far too far with this multiculturalism crap. If a people have nothing in common, then how can they form a cohesive nation with common interests?
All people do have things in common.
This may be news to some.
 
Multiculturalism as a state policy, yes or no?

I bring this up as the man behind the Norway attacks did it on motivation from Norway's open doors policy on immigration.

The doctrine of Multiculturalism has little to do with the policy on immigration per se, but on establishing that such immigrants should not have to integretae into society. It is the near opposite of the melting pot approach, which certainly accepts immigrants, but expectes them to adopt the greater culture when they do so.
 
All people do have things in common.
This may be news to some.

Not enough. If people lack a common identity and common aims, they have no reason to join together to achieve common goals.
 
No, no way, man. No, what's wrong with you? Multiculturalism leads to decadence. Since you have nothing in common with others, I'm talking about your identity, you don't give a **** if the country fails or succeeds. I personally don't give a **** if America fails or succeeds because it has become too multicultural and I feel my identity is not being protected in this country. I'm not being represented.

I want a nation that has a clear defined identity. Enough of this multicultural crap!
 
To the OP question (I voted "other"):

Multiculturalism: Yes, of course.

*BUT* within a frame of a society that respects minority rights, religious freedom and a free, open political system. Each of the different subcultures within society must embrace this frame, else it cannot work but will fall apart.

But as long as this frame is respected, multiculturalism should be encouraged: As long as you live and let live, it really doesn't matter how you dress, what you eat, what you believe, how you worship -- and of course it does even matter less which skin color you have, which language is your first language, or which country you or your parents are originally from.

For technical reasons, I'd include language skills of the respective native language: It's necessary for a society to function that all subcultures can at least communicate without greater difficulties.

Some Muslim immigrants still seem to have problems with this concept. But even moreso, there are much more, by far much more natives who have a problem with that. Xenophobes who want a homogenous society, that is ethnically, culturally or racially "pure". Those people are the enemies of freedom and the enemies of an open society. I'd give random Muslim extremists as example, or right-wingers à la Wilders, or Breivik.
 
Not enough. If people lack a common identity and common aims, they have no reason to join together to achieve common goals.
But people have always had things in common.
Respect
Honor
a better life for their children
a pursuit of happiness..
BUT, the one thing that must be common for all is one national language - ENGLISH...
The "common goals" are obvious, all one needs to do is ask.
I have, have you ?
 
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