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Would You accept putting $1 Trillion in increased revenues towards jobs?

Would You accept putting $1 Trillion in increased revenues towards jobs?

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Objective Voice

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The proposal from the President and economist to get our nation's economy on a more sustainable path calls for a mix of $3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in "revenue raisers"...eliminating tax loopholes.

The Republicans continue to say that government can't create weath. They also make the claim that removing revenue from the private sector will stiffle job growth. However, they didn't seem to have a problem with that when Pres. Reagan increased the payroll tax in order to apply that revenue towards defense spending. By that, Reagan used public-private partnerships in order to empower the "military industrial complex" to create jobs and improve job growth. That got me to to thinking...

Where would you like to see those "revenue raises" go toward:

1) Paying down the debt; or,

2) Made part of a jobs bill that relies on "public-private partnerships", perhaps not in defense spending but rather on public works projects at the state level?

Could you approve of such revenue generation being diverted from the Treasury if it would create jobs within the private sector in partnership with state governments?
 
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Get this through your head.......since Obama's Trillion dollar boondoggle of a subprime PORKULUS/"Jobs Bill" to Nowhere.....didnt.....

-------GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE JOBS--------it creates slobs------
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Government can create jobs that is just a fact. Anyone who denies this is out of their mind, and ignoring facts.
 
I don’t need more jobs. If unemployment is too low labor costs will go up and product cost also. There will be more reason to move jobs to China and India. The returns on my investments will be lower. And infrastructure like bridges can be done by private companies. Tolls are easy to collect with Ipass.
Damn, how come I’m voting ‘yes’.
 
Your Star said:
Government can create jobs that is just a fact. Anyone who denies this is out of their mind, and ignoring facts.
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If government had its own money.......perhaps unicorns might fly out of monkey's butts......and government could create jobs.

....but government only has the money they steal from We The People......from Employers, Job Creators, Entreprenuers, Businesses, Workers, and Consumers.......the job engine.
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Badmutha said:
If government had its own money.......perhaps unicorns might fly out of monkey's butts......and government could create jobs.

....but government only has the money they steal from We The People......from Employers, Job Creators, Entreprenuers, Businesses, Workers, and Consumers.......the job engine.
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Taxes isn't theft, so stop that line of thought right there. And yes they do create jobs, or would you say every soldier is doing nothing more then stealing from the people?
 
Objective Voice said:
The proposal from the President and economist to get our nation's economy on a more sustainable path calls for a mix of $3 trillion in spending cuts and $1 trillion in "revenue raisers"...eliminating tax loopholes.

The Republicans continue to say that government can't create weath. They also make the claim that removing revenue from the private sector will stiffle job growth. However, they didn't seem to have a problem with that when Pres. Reagan increased the payroll tax in order to apply that revenue towards defense spending. By that, Reagan used public-private partnerships in order to empower the "military industrial complex" to create jobs and improve job growth. That got me to to thinking...

Where would you like to see those "revenue raises" go toward:

1) Paying down the debt; or,

2) Made part of a jobs bill that relies on "public-private partnerships", perhaps not in defense spending but rather on public works projects at the state level?

Could you approve of such revenue generation being diverted from the Treasury if it would create jobs within the private sector in partnership with state governments?
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^^This.

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I sent the OP post to the President.
 
Your Star said:
Taxes isn't theft, so stop that line of thought right there. And yes they do create jobs, or would you say every soldier is doing nothing more then stealing from the people?
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So we agree government doesnt have its own money.....it only has what it takes from the Private Sector--The Host Organism and Job Engine.
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Badmutha said:
So we agree government doesnt have its own money.....it only has what it takes from the Private Sector--The Host Organism and Job Engine.
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The government creates jobs, fact. End of thread.
 
Badmutha said:
So we agree government doesnt have its own money.....it only has what it takes from the Private Sector--The Host Organism and Job Engine.
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Take a look above George Washington's portrait


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What does it say?

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Badmutha said:
Get this through your head.......since Obama's Trillion dollar boondoggle of a subprime PORKULUS/"Jobs Bill" to Nowhere.....didnt.....

-------GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CREATE JOBS--------it creates slobs------
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Government does a number of things for you and the nation as a whole for which each citizen should pay taxes. It's a bit socialist, but it does help out every now and then. One of these things is the US Military.

I don't understand the concept of putting 1 trillion dollars to jobs. It's as if you are saying jobs are produced in some factory and we can purchase them. The Recession has had a number of effects. Among the few good ones was that it showed people where they were spending money they didn't need spending. It also showed businesses and industries this and they began to lay off people they didn't need. They begin retrofitting and buying machines and computers that cut down on manpower and resources. They are not going to hire more people than they need again just because someone tells them to.
 
I'm guessing you are paying for this $1 Trillion increase.

Anyway, public works projects are temporary and worthless for good growth.
 
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Your Star said:
Government can create jobs that is just a fact. Anyone who denies this is out of their mind, and ignoring facts.
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The government can not create sustainable jobs. Yes, they can hire someone to dig a ditch but they can not pay that guy unless they take the money from someone else. They create nothing.
 
Henrin said:
What does nonsense even mean? That they print money? Do you know how the economy works? How money gets value? Any of that?
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With out the overnment's full faith and credit it would be just piece of paper.
 
winston53660 said:
With out the overnment's full faith and credit it would be just piece of paper.
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ah..no.

Faith comes from the markets trust in the currency.
 
winston53660 said:
With out the overnment's full faith and credit it would be just piece of paper.
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Yup, technically that's where it comes from in the first place. And it was issued to serve a purpose too.
 
1Perry said:
Bernanke doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in it right now.
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Yeah but if you print more money, MORE FAITH!

That makes sense winston, right?

Ironically that is all Bernanke knows. His economic knowledge is laughable to say the least.
 
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So you are saying allow the government to increase taxes, then form a partnerships with business to create jobs …. sounds like a big boondoggle to me

Why not cut out the middle man …. and just tell businesses for each job your create we will give you a tax break of X amount and will do so .. until we reach a trillion dollars in spending ….. isn't that the same thing ??

Also … haven't we nearly tried this with the 800 billion dollar stimulus bill ? ( remember all those shovel ready jobs?) Seeing as unemployment has risen since it's implementation why would a sane person want to give them another trillion dollars to execute another plan …. by the very same people who failed with the first 800 billion given them ??

I will give you this .. .the way it's presented it does sound appealing …... but after seeing how well the first job creation stimulus plan worked out ….. I vote a resounding “NO”
 
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The Barbarian said:
So you are saying allow the government to increase taxes, then form a partnerships with business to create jobs …. sounds like a big boondoggle to me
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Sort of like they did to get more people into their own home.

Why not cut out the middle man …. and just tell businesses for each job your create we will give you a tax break of X amount and will do so .. until we reach a trillion dollars in spending ….. isn't that the same thing ??
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Since the Dems are so giddy over more taxation, I'd even accept taxing those who send jobs overseas at a higher rate. This was one of Obama's campaign promises.

I will give you this .. .the way it's presented it does sound appealing …... but after seeing how well the first job creation stimulus plan worked out ….. I vote a resounding “NO”
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Yes, there are many things that sound good on paper but doesn't work in real life.
 
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