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Presidential Report Card

How's His Driving?

  • A

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A-

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • B+

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • B

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • B-

    Votes: 4 9.3%

  • C+

    Votes: 3 7.0%

  • C

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • C-

    Votes: 7 16.3%

  • D+

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • D-F (please specify, I ran out of room)

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • Total voters
    43
tessaesque said:
I know this is gonna sound hackish...but lack of solid direction seems to be a big issue with a lot of Obama foreign policy/economic policy.

*runs and hides*
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I think any honest person would agree with this sentiment, on both the right and the left.
 
soccerboy22 said:
He is, but that is Campaign Obama. President Obama lacks those party leadership skills and many Congressional Democrats complain about the lack of him in certain areas.
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True words......

Its an empty suit, a teleprompter, and a copy of Rules for Radicals.......and 50 million americans knowingly and willingly voted for it.
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tessaesque said:
I know this is gonna sound hackish...but lack of solid direction seems to be a big issue with a lot of Obama foreign policy/economic policy.

*runs and hides*
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Well his economic policy comes from a different school than most conservatives apply to so I think that is why people see a lack of direction there. His foreign policy does lack direction, but he has had rather active world while he is in office. I mean Egypt, Libya, drawing down in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Russia.
 
haymarket said:
my vote went to a C+. I would give Obama higher if he would show some guts and stand up to the right wingers a whole lot more. When he signed the tax cuts after the election - that was a terrible mistake.

I think he has done more good than bad but his move to the right to placate the right wing is just not a good thing.
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He probably perceives it as necessary compromise, and I can't fault him for that. I know there should be a "but" here, but I can't think of it.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I think any honest person would agree with this sentiment, on both the right and the left.
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I would hope so, but anytime somebody on the right is critical of Obama there's a 70% chance (or better) that they'll be accused of racism, tea-party radicalism, or some sort of warped hatred of the man.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Well his economic policy comes from a different school than most conservatives apply to so I think that is why people see a lack of direction there. His foreign policy does lack direction, but he has had rather active world while he is in office. I mean Egypt, Libya, drawing down in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Russia.
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It lacks direction for a lot of liberals as well. I mean, the super-leftist in me just wants him to grab the bull by the horns and do some serious industrial policy in order to get our economy back on track. Of course conservatives would never stand for that.
 
tessaesque said:
I would hope so, but anytime somebody on the right is critical of Obama there's a 70% chance (or better) that they'll be accused of racism, tea-party radicalism, or some sort of warped hatred of the man.
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It's one thing to be honest about the fact that his policies lack direction, and that he doesn't really take principled stands on a lot of issues.

The baseless and idiotic attacks on the part of partisan hacks are quite another.
 
StillBallin75 said:
It lacks direction for a lot of liberals as well. I mean, the super-leftist in me just wants him to grab the bull by the horns and do some serious industrial policy in order to get our economy back on track. Of course conservatives would never stand for that.
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Oh I completely agree. When I reread it I realized I left something off. It lacks direction, but if you don't prescribe to that school then it seems even more so.
 
I have to disagree with those who say that BO is not leading the party. He is, but in the wrong direction

Why just this morning, he had a talk with Pelosi (who has said she is opposed to cutting SS) to tell her that he is going to rally Congress to cut SS. This comes after he has actively led the Dems to re-authorize the Patriot Act, re-new bush* tax cuts, prevent the creation of a "public option" for health insurance, expand education "deform", get incolced in another war we can't afford, crackdown on whistleblowers and medical marijuana dispensaries, and a number of other republican ideas

The best thing about Obama is his dog, Bo.
 
I don't like the letter grade system.

Just to do a quick summery, there are a couple of things I think he's signed on that have been positive, in my opinion.
Particularly, opening up the Pell grant to part time students.
Which was sorely needed for working adults.

The bad is his continued political word/speech manipulation.
Hate politicians that do that.
It shows dishonesty.
 
I give him an F

1. He continues to fascist drug war
2. He continues to mindless bloodshed abroad in addition he has stated more
3. Unemployment is still high
4. He has done nothing to curb Government Gang Banger powers

Thats just four that I can name at the top of my head
 
Harry what is another thing you view as a positive because I believe we have discussed the positive of the Pell grants before.
 
He gets an F for more than one reason.

People claim Obama is brilliant but he hides his records just as his Birth Certificate has been hidden, and think he got lousy grades in school and that's why he hades the records.

I think he got a lot of Ds, and some Fs making him an F-er
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I'm going to Taco Bell, let me think about it a little more on the way and back. :mrgreen:
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You better be delivering, sunshine. I'm going through TB withdrawal. :(
 
Cold Highway said:
I give him an F

1. He continues to fascist drug war
2. He continues to mindless bloodshed abroad in addition he has stated more
3. Unemployment is still high
4. He has done nothing to curb Government Gang Banger powers

Thats just four that I can name at the top of my head
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Yes and Unemployment just got higher. It's now up to 9.2%. Instead of moving forward, Obama is going backward.....to the days of Jimmy Carter.
 
Bardo said:
D+.

According to a lefty like myself Obama has been far from impressive thus far. I understand that he's not a dictator and he doesn't have a magic wand but his campaign promises have yet to be applied. Gitmo is still open, healthcare reform has been a joke, the Bush tax cuts were extended, another military conflict has been initiated, the Patriot Act has been extended ect. I'm having trouble thinking of something that president Obama has delivered that candidate Obama promised.

The extra credit for getting Bin laden is the only thing keeping him from recieving a failing grade from me.
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I share this same Grade, but from a Conservative perspective. Yes, Osama getting nailed on his watch gets him a little cred. His force feeding health care for over a year when he should have been working on jobs and allowing a better environment for job creation, the unpopular and failure of the continued Bush stimulus spending, the continued GW Bush foreign policy, expansion into Libya as a 3rd war without Congressional approval or support are just some of the things that are disappointing.
 
I gave him a B, I don't live the US and don't know whats happening first hand, so my opinion of him is much different than yours. Seems like he has the right intentions, but is ****ing it up in practise. Don somethings right and quite a bit wrong but still a half decent president. Not the worst you've ever had IMO.
 
Juiposa said:
I gave him a B, I don't live the US and don't know whats happening first hand, so my opinion of him is much different than yours. Seems like he has the right intentions, but is ****ing it up in practise. Don somethings right and quite a bit wrong but still a half decent president. Not the worst you've ever had IMO.
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If you lived here.....you could see how Obama is the worst president in history....first hand......
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soccerboy22 said:
Harry what is another thing you view as a positive because I believe we have discussed the positive of the Pell grants before.
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Ok, this is one of those, all else being the same, not living in my ideal world type things.

  • Unintentional side benefit of the Health care legislation (which I mostly hate) is that disabled people who want to work, will be able to qualify for medicaid without having to go through the means testing crap.
  • EITC payments (our negative income tax) opened up more for people with 3 children.
  • The various down payment assistance programs for lower income people, to purchase homes. It isn't a blindingly easy to qualify for, which is good for responsible low income people.

That's 3 quick ones, could be more though.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I don't like the letter grade system.

Just to do a quick summery, there are a couple of things I think he's signed on that have been positive, in my opinion.
Particularly, opening up the Pell grant to part time students.
Which was sorely needed for working adults.

The bad is his continued political word/speech manipulation.
Hate politicians that do that.
It shows dishonesty.
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Pretty much all politicians do that. The only politicians that don't do that are the ones on the outside looking in.

Messaging through the manipulation of language is just an inherent part of politics. Just look at how many people freaked out at "death panels" and "rationing care," despite the fact that the status quo at the time was pretty much rationing and death panels by default.
 
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Last time we had this thread (probably about a year ago) I think I gave Obama a B+. Now I'm downgrading him to a C-. His negotiation tactics (on the Bush tax cuts, on the budget, on the debt ceiling) have been unbelievably weak. He's ramped up our involvement in Afghanistan and continued that boondoggle long after it became evident that it was a disaster, he's continued to wage a war on drugs, and he's gotten us involved in a covert war in Yemen and an overt war in Libya.
 
Badmutha said:
If you lived here.....you could see how Obama is the worst president in history....first hand......
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Who was president when we left the Gold Standard behind??
 
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