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What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

What is your opinion of Barack Obama now?

  • I'm glad I voted for him.

    Votes: 20 39.2%
  • I'm glad I didn't vote for him.

    Votes: 27 52.9%
  • I wish I had voted for him.

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • I wish I hadn't voted for him.

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Total voters
    51
I didn't vote for him, and knew he was a fraud before the election. I read this man's bio of him a couple of months before the election.

ZCommunications | Obama, As Predicted by Paul Street | ZNet Article

He's the perfect Republican candidate, which is why the attacks on him from the Goofy Right are so ludicrous.

Another pre-election article on Obama by Street:

OBama's White Appeal

Neo-liberals felt very comfortable voting for him, always a bad sign.
 
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Obama is a politician blessed by the incompetence and incoherence of his opponents.

He will be remembered as a great president, fourth only to Washington, Lincoln and FDR.

Repeal the Twenty-second!
 
Obama is a politician blessed by the incompetence and incoherence of his opponents.

Sadly. But outrunning the short bus don't make you NASCAR. He'll have to be blessed by some actual achievements first, before he's remembered as anything but a mediocrity, a footnote.
 
...only works one way Ock! Conservatives who tout Obama is bad but don't speak poorly of bush are obviously hypocrites, but those who bash/bashed Bush but tout that Obama is good are completely legitimate.

Unforunately, we have a glut of those "conservatives" here.
 
I'm glad I voted for him, he has done a much better job then McCain would have IMO. Though he has disappointed in several areas, and hasn't brought the change I voted for.

Actually I believe he would have done pretty much the same. MCcain is a wishy washy windblown professional politician. The big difference between them was MCcain was the devil in a suit. El Presidente was just an empty suit who has since proven to be another devil in a suit.

Its tough to vote for these guys when you are offered crap or yesterdays crap as a choice.
 
It could be worse - he could have actually governed towards his campaign positions and promises. :)

2012 is not looking good - its 2008 all over again, no one that really inspires me to hope for real leadership and vision.
 
Oh I don't know, you need to give the guy more time to find his feets. After all this is his first real job. Once he gets out there and visits all 57 states you'll start to feel differently about him. And think about it, he has surprised everyone with his relish for drones and he's sent a lot more corpsemen out to make friends with terrorists and build schools so they could practice their demolition skills. He's done a lot when you think about it. He has redirected NASA in a more practical direction instructing them to make Muslims feel good about the mathematical achievements they stole from the Hindus they slaughtered. He has redirected the efforts of the Department of Justice toward protecting New Black Panthers. He has golfed and partied to inspire the nation. It's endless really, the good he's done.

Yay Obama! Four more years!!
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The question pretty well speaks for itself.

He has good principals (talking about the real world here, not alinsky conspiracy stuff or muslim/radical christian communism), however, he sucks at negotiation, which means he gives away the store too easily.

If I had the vote back, I would have voted for Hillary.
 
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He has good principals (talking about the real world here, not alinsky conspiracy stuff or muslim/radical christian communism), however, he sucks at negotiation, which means he gives away the store too easily.

If I had the vote back, I would have voted for Hillary.

I could have told you that back during the election. No one listened to me(and Clinton ran a pathetic campaign too). The best thing that can be said about Obama is he was better than McCain, and better than any one the republicans are running right now. That is damning with faint praise.
 
Both Republicans and Democrats are neo-liberals, with only minor differences that are just window dressing for PR disinformation purposes; they are just cliques within business groups who own both 'parties' and essentially just at odds over which criminal enterprises gets to divide the spoils, and more resemble the disputes between mafia gangs over territory and money.

Paul Street's political bio of Obama, published before the election:

Paradigm - Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics

A sample of his, and Z Magazine's, coverage of Obama, a couple of 2007 articles:

ZCommunications | Obama's Audacious Deference by Paul Street | ZNet Article

ZCommunications | The Obama Illusion by Paul Street | ZMagazine Article

" If the Democrats’ candidate in 2008 is Obama, we can be sure that the right-wing Republican noise machine will denounce the nation’s potential first non-white male president as a dangerous “leftist.” The charge will be absurd, something that will hardly stop numerous people on the portside of the narrow U.S. political spectrum from claiming Obama as a fellow “progressive.” Certain to be encouraged by Obama and his handlers, this confusion will reflect the desperation and myopia that shaky thinking and the limited choices of the U.S. electoral system regularly instill in liberals and some squishy near leftists.

So what sorts of policies and values could one expect from an imagined Obama presidency? There is quite a bit already in Obama’s short national career that has to be placed in the “never mind” category if one is to seriously to believe his claim (cautiously advanced in The Audacity of Hope ) to be a “progressive” concerned with “social and economic justice” and global peace.

Never Mind

N ever mind, for example, that Obama was recently hailed as a “Hamiltonian” believer in “limited government” and “free trade” by Republican New York Times columnist David Brooks, who praises Obama for having “a mentality formed by globalization, not the SDS.” Or that he had to be shamed off the “New Democrat Directory” of the corporate-right Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) by the popular left black Internet magazine Black Commentator (Bruce Dixon, “Obama to Have Name Removed From DLC List,” Black Commentator , June 26, 2003).

Never mind that Obama (consistent with Brooks’s description of him) has lent his support to the aptly named Hamilton Project, formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and “other Wall Street Democrats” to counter populist rebellion against corporatist tendencies within the Democratic Party (David Sirota, “Mr. Obama Goes to Washington,” the Nation , June 26). Or that he lent his politically influential and financially rewarding assistance to neoconservative pro-war Senator Joe Lieberman’s (“D”-CT) struggle against the Democratic antiwar insurgent Ned Lamont. Or that Obama has supported other “mainstream Democrats” fighting antiwar progressives in primary races (see Alexander Cockburn, “Obama’s Game,” the Nation , April 24, 2006). Or that he criticized efforts to enact filibuster proceedings against reactionary Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.

Never mind that Obama “dismissively” referred—in a “tone laced with contempt”—to the late progressive and populist U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone as “something of a gadfly.” Or that he chose the neoconservative Lieberman to be his “assigned” mentor in the U.S. Senate. Or that “he posted a long article on the liberal blog Daily Kos criticizing attacks against lawmakers who voted for right-wing Supreme Court nominee John Roberts.” Or that he opposed an amendment to the Bankruptcy Act that would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent. Or that he told Time magazine’s Joe Klein last year that he’d never given any thought to Al Gore’s widely discussed proposal to link a “carbon tax” on fossil fuels to targeted tax relief for the nation’s millions of working poor (Joe Klein, “The Fresh Face,” Time , October 17, 2006).

Never mind that Obama voted for a business-friendly “tort reform” bill that rolls back working peoples’ ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation from misbehaving corporations (Cockburn; Sirota). Or that Obama claims to oppose the introduction of single-payer national health insurance on the grounds that such a widely supported social-democratic change would lead to employment difficulties for workers in the private insurance industry—at places like Kaiser and Blue Cross Blue Shield (Sirota). Does Obama support the American scourge of racially disparate mass incarceration on the grounds that it provides work for tens of thousands of prison guards? Should the U.S. maintain the illegal operation of Iraq and pour half its federal budget into “defense” because of all the soldiers and other workers that find employment in imperial wars and the military-industrial complex? Does the “progressive” senator really need to be reminded of the large number of socially useful and healthy alternatives that exist for the investment of human labor power at home and abroad—wetlands preservation, urban ecological retrofitting, drug counseling, teaching, infrastructure building and repair, safe and affordable housing construction, the building of windmills and solar power facilities, etc.?

In an interview with Klein, Obama expressed reservations about a universal health insurance plan recently enacted in Massachusetts, stating his preference for “voluntary” solutions over “government mandates.” The former, he said, is “more consonant with” what he called “the American character”—a position contradicted by regular polling data showing that most Americans support Canadian-style single-payer health insurance.

Never mind that Obama voted to re-authorize the repressive PATRIOT Act. Or that he voted for the appointment of the war criminal Condaleeza Rice to (of all things) Secretary of State. Or that he opposed Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) move to censure the Bush administration after the president was found to have illegally wiretapped U.S. citizens. Or that he shamefully distanced himself from fellow Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin’s forthright criticism of U.S. torture practices at Guantanamo. Or that he refuses to foreswear the use of first-strike nuclear weapons against Iran.

Never mind that Obama makes a big point of respectfully listening to key parts of the right wing agenda even though that agenda is well outside majority sentiment (Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson, Off Center: the Republican Revolution and the Erosion of American Democracy ). Or that he joins victim-blaming Republicans in pointing to poor blacks’ “cultural” issues as the cause of concentrated black poverty (Obama, The A udacity of Hope )—not the multiple, well-documented, and interrelated structures, practices and consequences of externally imposed white supremacy and corporate-state capitalism. Or that he claims that blacks have joined the American “socioeconomic mainstream” even as median black household net worth falls to less than eight cents on the median white household dollar. Or that he had this to say on the night after the Congressional mid-term elections, when the criminal and reactionary Cheney-Bush administration’s unpopularity with the American people cost the Republicans their majority in Congress: “If the Democrats don’t show a willingness to work with the president, I think they could be punished in ‘08” (Jeff Zeleni, “Democrats Fight to Say, ‘You’re Welcome,’” New York Times , November 5, 2006)."

I can't find any legitimate Leftists who supported him. Why the Freepers keep calling him a 'Leftist' when he has far more in common with Republicans than any other gang of neo-liberals is a mystery.
 
The most hilarious thing is that those who think that Obama sucks are the same people who thought that GWB was a great and inspired world leader. Doh!
 
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I do find it interesting that the libs try to tout how great a President they think Obama is, but not one of them can come with one thing Obama has done to fix the economy or describe what that one thing did to fix it...Its really up to the people to "fix" the economy, has one man done the first thing ???.
Its took FDR a decade and WW2 to fix the economy that the conservatives wrecked during the 20s..
I'm not really a "lib", more a moderate, but I think more highly of Obama than I did 24 plus months ago.
Consider what he has had to put up with......
 
So... it's our fault he sucks as POTUS?


Childish !
It takes a team effort, instead we have cons and libs with a huge chasm between them.
To me its obvious that the economy will not be good until the money returns home (20 years of trade deficits) and the wealthy share better than they have..
 
Its took FDR a decade and WW2 to fix the economy that the conservatives wrecked during the 20s..
I'm not really a "lib", more a moderate, but I think more highly of Obama than I did 24 plus months ago.
Consider what he has had to put up with......

FDR was limited to what he could do because of a Republican controlled Congress. He wanted to increase spending just like Obama is doing, and the Republicans stopped him. This is the reason the economy did so well under FDR. When the Democrats were in control the first couple of years FDR was President, it took a nosedive, just like it's doing now under Obama. Then the Republicans took control of Congress and things started picking up.
 
He is an illegal pos. A thief like his gorilla wife. Users and haters of white people. Producer of ugly children. Anti-american little BITCH. Crackhead who slurps sperm from homeless white men just for a rock. In other words he's a ****ing winner for the democrats.
 
He is an illegal pos. A thief like his gorilla wife. Users and haters of white people. Producer of ugly children. Anti-american little BITCH. Crackhead who slurps sperm from homeless white men just for a rock. In other words he's a ****ing winner for the democrats.

To put it plainly, this post is ****ed up.
 
He is an illegal pos. A thief like his gorilla wife. Users and haters of white people. Producer of ugly children. Anti-american little BITCH. Crackhead who slurps sperm from homeless white men just for a rock. In other words he's a ****ing winner for the democrats.


you should be banned. hate speech with no redeeming value.
 
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FDR was limited to what he could do because of a Republican controlled Congress. He wanted to increase spending just like Obama is doing, and the Republicans stopped him. This is the reason the economy did so well under FDR. When the Democrats were in control the first couple of years FDR was President, it took a nosedive, just like it's doing now under Obama. Then the Republicans took control of Congress and things started picking up.

Republicans controlled congress from 1929 until January of 1933 (when FDR took office). From 1929 until 1933, GDP dropped like a rock.

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The reason why the depression lasted as long as it did was that the Job losses and economic contraction from 1929-1933 was so deep that even with GDP growth that exceeded an average 8% a year, it took years for the economy to grow out of it.

That said, there were liberal Republicans back then, and conservative Democrats. The two parties were not nearly as ideologically divided as they are today.

Its crazy though that same historical revisionists today call the New Deal a failure when economic growth under the new deal averaged over 8% a year. Even half that growth rate today would be called an economic miracle.
 
As to the Poll Question. I voted for Obama in 2008. I am not enamored with his performance as president thus far. However, most elections are not choices for who is the best person to run the country, but rather who is the lesser of the two evils. In 2008, the choice for voters was Obama / Biden or McCain / Palin. While Obama has not in my opinion done a great job as president, he still was a far better choice than the alternative was.
 
Republicans controlled congress from 1929 until January of 1933 (when FDR took office). From 1929 until 1933, GDP dropped like a rock.

Depression.PNG


The reason why the depression lasted as long as it did was that the Job losses and economic contraction from 1929-1933 was so deep that even with GDP growth that exceeded an average 8% a year, it took years for the economy to grow out of it.



That said, there were liberal Republicans back then, and conservative Democrats. The two parties were not nearly as ideologically divided as they are today.

Its crazy though that same historical revisionists today call the New Deal a failure when economic growth under the new deal averaged over 8% a year. Even half that growth rate today would be called an economic miracle.

Republicans also took over in the middle of FDR's Presidency, and that was when the economy started picking up.
 
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