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If she self-identifies as a "Fool for Christ" ...

Watch the video. Would you vote for Michelle Bachmann?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 23.1%

  • No

    Votes: 4 15.4%

  • Not just no, but hell no

    Votes: 14 53.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Total voters
    26
BDBoop said:
Why on earth does truly not liking her, not being enamored of her, looking at her using critical thought, - all of that doesn't equal what it is. It equals "hate." Why is that.
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You can relate the hate calling from alot of groups...its what you do when you dont like someones beliefs or position when its opposed to yours...Hey, if you dont agree with ME your a hater.....I ignore that just like I ignore the race card
 
Goshin said:
The term "fool for Christ" is used in some circles as an expression of faith. It is based on some statements by Paul, in the Bible. He begins by talking about his extensive education; his position in society (a high one, originally); his ancestry and birthrights, and so forth... and goes on to say that none of that matters. "I know nothing but Christ, and him crucified."

The following passage is primarily where the phrase "fool for Christ" came from, and came into use as an expression of devotion.





The term "fool for Christ" is not so commonly used now as it was twenty or thirty years ago, when the catchphrase was "everyone is a fool about something, so I might as well be a fool for Christ." My old pastor used to say that often.

Given that the term isn't widely used anymore, I'm not surprised that many people misunderstand its meaning today.
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I was going to clarify the meaning of the phrase, but you beat me to it. Good post. And a good example of why people should look a little deeper into things before immediately jumping to a conclusion. You may dislike or disagree with Bachman's policies, that's fine. But using this statement to say she calls herself as a fool, as the word is commonly understood and used today, is either ignorant or misleading.
 
Ikari said:
Do they? Perhaps. But then again, I'm not exactly a supporter of most candidates. I would hope they would stay away from campaigning in churches.
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Why? Church goers vote just like everyone else. Why not court their votes? I don't see how speaking in a church is different than speaking before any other large gathering of like minded people.
 
I know what "fool for Christ" means. As I stated, I've done a few decades in a pentecostal, fundamentalist church system.
 
Cephus said:
I'm not worried about representing the people, I'm worried about being able to make rational, intelligent decisions based on the evidence. If someone admits they believe an invisible man tells them what to do, I'm immediately going to question their rational ability to function.
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So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
 
Psychoclown said:
So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
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However, it is not of me. There is a HUGE difference between having faith in God, and being a fundy.
 
Psychoclown said:
So you question the rational ability to function of every current major Presidential candidate, the current sitting President, every President we've had in the past, and of 90% of Americans? I kinda doubt that. I think you just couldn't resist taking a cheap shot at religion. Which is typical for you.
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Me too. And I've detected that some do have the rational ability to function, while others will just look it up in the 'correct book' to get the answer.
 
I think it would be nice to have politicians that actually lived by their faith and didn't simply give lip service to their beliefs and go against them when they get elected to congress. :shrug: Although I'm not sure of Bachman is a genuine Christian or is trying to pander to the Evangelical vote. It's not my place to judge her heart for God, but she isn't the best person for America in my opinion.
 
BDBoop said:
However, it is not of me. There is a HUGE difference between having faith in God, and being a fundy.
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Technically I'm more-or-less a "fundy".



A third strand—and the name itself—came from a 12-volume study The Fundamentals, published 1910-1915.[13] Sponsors subsidize the free distribution of over three million individual volumes to clergy, laymen and libraries. This version.[14] stressed several core beliefs, including:

The inerrancy of the Bible
The literal nature of the Biblical accounts, especially regarding Christ's miracles, and the Creation account in Genesis.
The Virgin Birth of Christ
The bodily resurrection and physical return of Christ
The substitutionary atonement of Christ on the cross
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Fundamentalist Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With certain limited exceptions, I'm right there with 'em in what I believe.

Yet oddly enough I'm quite functional :lol: and able to have rational political discussions without always referring to scripture...
 
Ikari said:
Mostly it would depend on her policies that she was pushing. However, her campaigning in a Church is a bit suspect.
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Obama did it. Was it suspect then, too?
 
Goshin said:
Technically I'm more-or-less a "fundy".
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Me too!

While there is a certain strain of fundamentalism that I can't stand, many so called "fundies" are rational, intelligent people who don't go around waving a Bible at everyone and ranting and raving about hellfire and brimstone. Those lunatics are just more noticeable and get more press.
 
Psychoclown said:
Why? Church goers vote just like everyone else. Why not court their votes? I don't see how speaking in a church is different than speaking before any other large gathering of like minded people.
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Well Churches have a lot of benefit including removal of taxes and such. They aren't techincally allowed to campaign, and thus I find campaigning in a Church proper to be a bit suspicious and would think it would be best not to open the can of worms.
 
apdst said:
Obama did it. Was it suspect then, too?
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Yes, it was. Less the Church had the opposing candidate able to speak as well. Because it's essentially a church endorsement of a candidate.
 
Cephus said:
I'm not worried about representing the people, I'm worried about being able to make rational, intelligent decisions based on the evidence. If someone admits they believe an invisible man tells them what to do, I'm immediately going to question their rational ability to function.
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what if they don't believe in an "invisibil man-God", but a "God of who is without form", like the jewish or muslim God?
 
He said:

Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
what if they don't believe in an "invisibil man-God", but a "God of who is without form", like the jewish or muslim God?
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Until they can demonstrate objectively that it actually exists, it's still an invisible, imaginary friend.
 
cpwill said:
well, thank you - I'll admit, I'm more likely to support her after that.
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I agree. After reading those quotes by her, I like her even more.
 
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