NGNM85
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The Catholic church should be free to be as backwards and primitive as it has always been.
Why is this even a question? He has every right to refuse to perform the ceremony if he wants, they can go elsewhere and take their money with them. People have a right to be bigoted, everyone else has right to tell them where to go.
It's a question because SSM is a question. It's a good one, too.
It's a question because SSM is a question. It's a good one, too.
It is a question easily and obviously answered "no" by any reasonable person. It may be a question, but it is not an issue.
But it's not a good question. It's a bigoted one. I'm sure the people who were against interracial marriage decades ago, against blacks in an integrated military, etc. thought they were good questions too. They were just wrong.
Were there religious exemptions on inter-racial marriage? That's where the favorite analogy of SSMers breaks apart.
It's a question because SSM is a question. It's a good one, too.
Were there religious exemptions on inter-racial marriage? That's where the favorite analogy of SSMers breaks apart.
This liberal is going on record saying that the religious freedom for clergy to refuse to perform a same sex marriage, or any other marriage, is far more important than the small infringement on equality such an action by a clergy member would represent. I am unequivocal in my opposition to forcing clergy to marry couples they do not want to marry. I would vigorously oppose any movement to force them to.
I am an atheist opposed to the spread of religion, and who fully and vigorously supports same sex marriage.
The notion that clergy will be forced to marry same sex couples is a red herring that the far right leadership is using in order to frighten it's ignorant followers. It is demagoguery with zero substance used to manipulate. Period.
A church can deny to marry an inter-racial couple, the only reason there is this law with regards to SSM is because of political pandering.
On bibical grounds? Hell - on LEGAL grounds? I don't think so.
^^^ Incidentally, to my left wing friends, I was just responding in kind to the post I was replying to by calling the far left "mindless". I didn't really mean it, it's just, sometimes the high road gives me a nosebleed.
Yes they can.
On bibical grounds? Hell - on LEGAL grounds? I don't think so.
The better cons on this board must stop kissing left wing ass, X. That's why they keep coming at us so unpreparedly - they just know we're gonna be nice about it. They think we're panzies. And some of us are.
Well I think that's a load. My pastor wouldn't.
A Priest does not have to marry two people that don't fit the gounds set by the church. Now, the Catholic Church has LONG married inter-racial couples (the Church is far more integrated racially and has been for far longer than nearly all Protestant sects.) Fact is, religious institutions are not FORCED to marry anyone they don't want to. The Church was not required to marry my wife and I. We had to meet the requirements set out by the Archdiocese of Atlanta, and could not get a Church wedding before those requirements were met. The Church will still continue to deny same sex marriages as they do not qualify for a Catholic wedding - and never will.
The better cons on this board must stop kissing left wing ass, X. That's why they keep coming at us so unpreparedly - they just know we're gonna be nice about it. They think we're panzies. And some of us are.
I'm not saying it's Biblically sound in my opinion, I'm saying it's legal.
Is it common? (And I'm still not sure it's legal.)
Panzies is not what we would call right wingers. We have much more entertaining names for them. I would tell you what those names are, but I would get kicked out of the gay mafia if I did.
I wouldn't think it's common, since racism is rightfully looked down upon in this country, but it is legal.