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yes. i'm comparing a human to a human. i'm doing that.
Is a fetus, "a human"?
yes. i'm comparing a human to a human. i'm doing that.
Is a fetus, "a human"?
That isn't how it works buddy... you have a supposition and it is up to you to back it. Pretty simple.
You are the one going against accepted knowledge and wisdom... do it yourself or admit you are wrong.
Gonna address this one before tackling what differentiates "a" human from being a "developing" human. Then we can get into the, oh, I don't know, subtleties of what differentiates a Jew from a zygote. OK? I think that you need to do a little revision.
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i really can't wait.
No. Are YOU going to address that... I already have.
.......................where?
Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
That isn't how it works buddy... you have a supposition and it is up to you to back it. Pretty simple.
You are the one going against accepted knowledge and wisdom... do it yourself or admit you are wrong.
Holy Bongos... here:
As a Brit, I am a little bemused by the discussion about whether the USA should have interceded, or intervened, in World War II. While not diminishing in any way the value of the US contribution to final victory, or the help given in the form of Lend Lease, surely Americans are taught the historical facts that the USA neither intervened nor interceded. Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, and a few days later the Germans declared war upon the USA. It was not a matter of voluntary intervention. When someone formally declares war, you have little choice other than to engage them.
What if America ever becomes the next "Nazi Germany?" What do we do then?
you call that something for me to contend with? seriously? you didn't even assert an actual argument for me to refute.
what kind of mongoloid mind am i dealing with here? you didn't refute anything,.
i didn't realize what the thread topic actually was until you posted.
And special needs people.
Holy ass munchers, we have a clown here. You said that killing six million within the framework of their organization was impossible. If that is not an actual argument, then man, go back to grammar school and start over, because you don't have a frickin' clue. I said that you would have double your disbelief in that the numbers were higher. Doubled. You told me to look up that I was wrong and to look it up myself and you wouldn't do it for me. I said that isn't how it works, you are the one challenging the accepted wisdom and it is up to you to prove your assertions. Seriously man, you want to start with the insults, then grab a ****ing clue as we head outside and settle this like men (the Basement). Dude, you are displaying yourself quite clearly for all to see...
all 3 sections of it.
of 300,000 people a month? not even the NYC morgue could do that $h!t. not the NYC, chicago,
and los angeles morgues COMBINED could handle that number. are you ill in your mind?
I give Germany crap about their anti-holocaust-denial laws, often. I mean, it's just stupid to keep the freaks in the darkness when they can be laughed at in the light and dispelled as a legitimate movement.
And then I see something like this and think... well, maybe they are right, who needs this crap?
Presented in their glory, am I right?
I wonder what some people mean by "good looks".
You don't know that. There are plenty of events that happened in the Balkins, in the 90's that people still don't know about.
Hell, there are events that took place during WW2 that people are still ignorant of. This thread proves that. So, you'll excuse me if I reserve my confidence on the, "information age".
i'm 1/2 jewish
iand i call bull$h!t on the numbers.
i mean, how long were auschwitz and treblinka even operational?
-- the entire structure is no larger than a small town hospital. cut that structure into a 1/3, and you have the capacity to dispose of how many people in a 3 year period? you're saying 12 million. so i'm to believe that these tiny establishments could effectively dispose completely of 300,000 people a month? not even the NYC morgue could do that $h!t. not the NYC, chicago, and los angeles morgues COMBINED could handle that number. are you ill in your mind?
no. i completely acknowledge that jews, christians, gypsies and communists were exterminated at these facilities. i'm merely asserting the numbers have been exaggerated.Will not spare you being asked to back up your following statement.
If you are going to dispute internationally and academically recognised numbers - you are going to need to show us where established knowledge is wrong. We had a guy called "kristallnacht" here a while ago and even he didn't deny the numbers. He actually agreed them - and then you turn up to deny the accuracy? :roll:
Are you of the belief that this was the only place where jews, gypsies and other undesirables were exterminated or are you just jerking us off here?
no. i completely acknowledge that jews, christians, gypsies and communists were exterminated at these facilities. i'm merely asserting the numbers have been exaggerated.
and anyone with even 1/2 a brain could look at the circumstance, and comprehend what i'm asserting.
They only murdered six million Jews because that's where the Allies stopped them. I would have allowed them to murder a lot more, just like we allowed the Hutus to murder a million Tutsis. I would have let them murder all of the Jews if it would have led to the early defeat of the Soviet Union and our unopposed supremacy over the entire planet.
There are no historical facts that suggest that anyone, outside of the Jewish community in Europe and the Nazi high command, knew that the death camps and concentration camps--yes, there's a difference--even existed.
There is tons of evidence that prove that Allied forces were totally unaware of the camps, until they stumbled upon them in 1945.
During 1942, reports of a Nazi plan to murder all the Jews--including details on methods, numbers, and locations--reached Allied and neutral leaders from many sources, including the underground Jewish Socialist Bund party in the Warsaw ghetto; Gerhard Riegner, the representative in Geneva of the World Jewish Congress; and the eyewitness accounts of Polish underground courier Jan Karski and of 69 Polish Jews who reached Palestine in a civilian prisoner exchange between Germany and Britain in November. On December 17, 1942, the Allies issued a proclamation condemning the "extermination" of the Jewish people in Europe and declared that they would punish the perpetrators.
-- I don't have any proof, but I can't figure how they could manage it --