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are our politicians acting/doing things as if there is a future

are our politicians acting as if there is future?

  • Our future looks bright because of the actions our politicians are taking now.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • They are doing well in building for the future.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • They try their best and its pretty promising.

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • They try but they don't know what they are doing.

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • They don't know what they are doing, but at least they are trying.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • I don't know.

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • They don't know.

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • They are preparing for a dim future.

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • They are preparing for a collapse.

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • They are taking desperate action now to save some capabiliies for an unavoidable collapse.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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that does appear to be much of the way of it







and, of course, lastly:



to an extent, we were doomed when we decided that we all deserved charity, and we could impose it by fiat.

This is true. Not everyone needs charity, only those among us who have limitations imposed on them either by society, accidents, or genetics.
 
Personally I am voting None of the Above.

I consider all politicians to be short sighted,self serving parasites on the evolutionary scale between tics and pod scum incapable of looking past their next election,sexual conquest,or kick back.

I really have no problem with our current style of democracy.What I do have a problem is the fact that the the leftist liberal extremist in the Democratic party and the christian conservative wingnuts of the Republican party seem to be the only voices allowed to speak in this county(hell,it almost seems like this forum is the same way),and that true independents,moderates,Situationalists llike myself are drowned out.

But then again,that's just my opinion.
 
Interesting link.

I actually really like the multiple choice ballot idea as well.

That's always struck me as the best solution. It allows for a much great diversity of opinions, but it stops most of the real nutjobs from getting anywhere. Also, there should be an upper limit on campaign finances. Something on the order of 10 million would be reasonable. That way, you could still donate if you wanted, but it would stop the huge money interests from buying votes.
 
Also, there should be an upper limit on campaign finances. Something on the order of 10 million would be reasonable. That way, you could still donate if you wanted, but it would stop the huge money interests from buying votes.

That will never work.

Because instead of special interest groups giving money directly to candidates all they will do is form separate organizations and spend their money directly supporting a candidate by buying advertising time to either support that candidate or to attack the opposition. And nothing can be done about that because of the right to free speech.
 
That will never work.

Because instead of special interest groups giving money directly to candidates all they will do is form separate organizations and spend their money directly supporting a candidate by buying advertising time to either support that candidate or to attack the opposition. And nothing can be done about that because of the right to free speech.

:thinking A fair point. What do you think the solution to that is?
 
I prefer the Instant Run-off Voting method. Or at least having a run-off election and then an election between the two top contestants.

I think that's the one I meant. If you've liked that one for a while.

Where you pick first choice, second choice, etc.. then the top two run.
 
But conservatives tend to point those quotes out only when it comes to individual welfare and tend to ignore those quotes when it comes to corporate welfare.

:) so you stand with the Republican 2012 budget which strips corporate welfare out of the tax code?

;) and liberals love their corporate welfare as well. all about those Green Energy Subsidies.
 
This is true. Not everyone needs charity, only those among us who have limitations imposed on them either by society, accidents, or genetics.

:shrug: i would throw "age" in there as well.
 
:shrug: i would throw "age" in there as well.

Yeah, age probably fits too. However, it depends on some factors I think.
 
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:) so you stand with the Republican 2012 budget which strips corporate welfare out of the tax code?

;) and liberals love their corporate welfare as well. all about those Green Energy Subsidies.

I want to get rid of all corporate subsidies and corporate tax cuts.
 
Personally I think a representative system that takes advantage of technology and either eliminates the two party system or expands it into a 3-4 minimum party system would be ideal.

We have this in Europe, yet everything is basically the same. Instead of two parties all the countries have two main party alliances. In the end its the same stufff, two sides fighting against each others, not as polarised and extreme as in the US, but moving in that direction. I think all party systems will always eventually turn into two sides fighting each others to the detreiment of the population. This is why I want a party free system.
 
I prefer the Instant Run-off Voting method. Or at least having a run-off election and then an election between the two top contestants.

Why must the people vote for parties and people instead of priorities, ideas and policies?
 
This is true. Not everyone needs charity, only those among us who have limitations imposed on them either by society, accidents, or genetics.

Yet the pension system pays both to those who needs it and those who do not need it.
 
Personally I am voting None of the Above.

I consider all politicians to be short sighted,self serving parasites on the evolutionary scale between tics and pod scum incapable of looking past their next election,sexual conquest,or kick back.

I really have no problem with our current style of democracy.What I do have a problem is the fact that the the leftist liberal extremist in the Democratic party and the christian conservative wingnuts of the Republican party seem to be the only voices allowed to speak in this county(hell,it almost seems like this forum is the same way),and that true independents,moderates,Situationalists llike myself are drowned out.

But then again,that's just my opinion.

Its not your opinion. Its the truth!

A truth perfectly synthesised!
 
The simple truth that we all avoid is that what the politicians do in DC is our fault. We keep electing the same dirtbags because...They are for Abortion or they are for Gay marriage or they are Christians or they are Black or they are saving the planet or they are for or they are for Corporate Welfare and tax cuts for the Rich. etc etc etc....WE are all the special interests that motivate them to do what they do to get re elected....its OUR fault. Many people will vote for the same person knowing they are dirtbags just because they are for the one thing that THEY WANT...were all guilty of it....Our govt is our fault
 
Yet the pension system pays both to those who needs it and those who do not need it.

If you mean social security, the payout is based on contributions, I wouldn't call it charitable.
 
I want to get rid of all corporate subsidies and corporate tax cuts.

I vote we strip out every corporate subsidy, every corporate give - away, every corporate loophole, every single piece of corporate welfare, and then we raise our corporate tax rate to match Canada's.
 
If you mean social security, the payout is based on contributions, I wouldn't call it charitable.

no. just an exceedingly poor investment that people are forced to make.
 
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