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You voted for Obama because he was in line with your beliefs...

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You voted for Obama because he was in line with your beliefs and...

1. You are disappointed because he went too far, didn't go far enough, did not fulfill the"No Red State, No Blue State, but the United States"... or some other reason...

or...

2. You are not disappointed.

3. You're of mixed feelings.


I won't parse the reasons, as there are scores. You can explain them if you like.

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Can't answer, didn't vote for him...but at least this poll seems more objective than most, regarding the poll choices...so kudos.
 
Mixed feelings, given the context of our situation he's really not doing all that bad.
 
This poll needs more options.....there is a big difference between disappointed because he went too far...and disappointed that he didn't go far enough....just sayin.
 
I think President Obama has done things that presidents have been trying to do for decades. Examples, health care reform and student loan reform. At a time of national economic crisis, rancorous partisan politics, two or more foreign wars, I am not only not disappointed, I am delighted and proud to have this man whose life experience is uniquely American as our president. This country has always been fortunate to find a great leader in its times of greatest need and today is no different.
 
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You voted for Obama because he was in line with your beliefs and...

1. You are disappointed because he went too far, didn't go far enough, did not fulfill the"No Red State, No Blue State, but the United States"... or some other reason...

or...

2. You are not disappointed.

3. You're of mixed feelings.


I won't parse the reasons, as there are scores. You can explain them if you like.

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Hey, I'm a Liberal, so it doesn't matter which Democrat is in office, we libs will find a reason to be dissappointed in him or her; it's our way. You will not find a bigger tent then that of the Donkey Party, which means you will find a lot of disappointment.
 
I think President Obama has done things that presidents have been trying to do for decades. Examples, health care reform and student loan reform. At a time of national economic crisis, rancorous partisan politics, two or more foreign wars, I am not only not disappointed, I am delighted and proud to have this man whose life experience is uniquely American as our president. This country has always been fortunate to find a great leader in its times of greatest need and today is no different.

He's essentially the same as Bush. Did you like Bush?
 
I voted for Obama for the same reason I will probably vote for him next year, its the same reason a starving man would eat a rat - its better than the alternative.
So unless a liberal with a credible chance runs against the moderate Obama, he will again get my vote.
 
My opinion of him is the same as Bush because he basically endorsed the continuation of most Bush era policies. Bush was not good for America and neither is Obama.

People won't like my opinion because it's non-partisan but it's the truth. If people can take off their partisan blinders they will see that America is still headed in the same direction now as when Bush was in office.
 
Well i couldnt vote back then and if i could i would of voted for either Obama or Nader but if i did vote for him i would be very disappointed.
 
I voted for him because he's black.



No, but seriously. I was generally unenthusiastic about him because of his stance on civil liberties (his motto: "**** civil liberties"), but he claimed to be more environmentalist (did alright, but not great), and I thought he would add a greater note of seriousness to the presidency than we had before him (mostly right about that despite a few trip-ups -- his handling of the Libyan and Egyptian crises was pretty bad). I think his need to consider all the angles and approach things levelly was good but desperately needed a touch of that good old W. Bush "go **** yourself" can-do approach. Without that he missed some very important opportunities that we'll probably never get for a long, long time. But back to the election, it was Palin who got me off my ass to vote for Obama in the first place. Until she was in the election I was too apathetic to want to vote.
 
I voted for Obama because he was more inline with my beliefs than McCain was. So far my feelings about him are mixed. He's done well on some things, and not as well on others. Overall, I think he has done a slightly better job than Bush did, and has done a slightly better job than McCain would have done. He's nothing special, but he's not as bad as many conservatives are making him out to be.
 
i voted for obama, and i am not disappointed because the alternative was far worse. dear god, palin as vp?
 
I voted for "mixed feelings."

Obama has done well on some fronts. Passing the Affordable Care Act was the biggest domestic policy accomplishment in 45 years, and took steps toward addressing the single biggest problem this nation faces (although more work will need to be done). He's drawn down our troops in Iraq. He has also done well with repairing our relationship with Russia and with Latin America countries. And while it's easy to second-guess his actions on Arab Spring, I think he's overall done a reasonably good job. He's cautiously encouraged democracy, he's prodded Israel toward a peace settlement, and he's offered to help bankroll Egypt and Tunisia to protect their newfound accomplishments until they can get back on their feet economically. And he's begin making good on President Bush's commitments to help eradicate malaria, especially in Sub-Saharan Africa; this is an often-overlooked accomplishment for which both presidents deserve a great deal of applause.

On other fronts, I'm more disappointed. The wars in Libya and Afghanistan (and the unofficial wars in Yemen and Pakistan) were unforced errors; Obama didn't have to commit American effort to those conflicts, but he did. Ultimately it's hard for me to see any benefit of our involvement in any of those places. The long-term effect, and perhaps even the short-term effect, is to anger the local population and make them resent us more. I'm pretty angry that he extended the Bush tax cuts for two more years, since all he had to do to end them was literally sit back and do nothing.

Overall I think he's been pretty good. He's certainly the best president of my lifetime, and I plan to vote for him again unless something major happens between now and next November.
 
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Not liking a lot of things.. namely his foreign policy. For those of my fellow liberals who say he has drawn down troops in Iraq, that was also what Bush was planning. Bush and the Iraqi PM had an agreement to withdraw all US troops by 2011. Obama is keeping us in Afghanistan until 2014, in a counterinsurgency role. That is absolutely ineffective and bad for this country. He wants to nation build over there just like Bush and it needs to end.
 
Can't answer, didn't vote for him...but at least this poll seems more objective than most, regarding the poll choices...so kudos.

It'd be a first for zimmer.

I'd have to go with mixed feelings, for the same reasons dragon listed.
 
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I voted for him because he was, at the time, the lesser of the available evils. He's been as bad as I expected. Voting the other way would have been worse. When will we get to actually vote *FOR* a good candidate instead of voting against a particularly bad one?
 
This poll needs more options.....there is a big difference between disappointed because he went too far...and disappointed that he didn't go far enough....just sayin.

The you would vote mixed feelings... or?

And you can explain yourself.

He's essentially the same as Bush. Did you like Bush?

ROTFLOL... he hasn't budged one iota from Bush's policies on national security enacted post 911, though he flapped his gums a fair bit during the campaign about Gitmo and the like. To think... Obama is walking in lock step with Bush 43, Rummy and Cheney. Now ain't that a sight!

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The you would vote mixed feelings... or?

And you can explain yourself.

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Not really mixed feelings....I'm disappointed because Obama should have gone a lot further....he had a mandate to do so....and he didn't have the backbone to stand up to the Republicans in congress and the conservative Democrats who stood with the Republicans. Obama tried to play to much to the middle and tried to compromise when it was clear that there was zero chance that the Republicans would compromise. At that point....Obama should have said 'OK....screw all of you...this is what the American people elected me to do" and then done it. We would all be better off....instead....we got watered down/half-baked solutions to problems that required a lot more substance to them.
 
I voted for him because he was, at the time, the lesser of the available evils. He's been as bad as I expected. Voting the other way would have been worse. When will we get to actually vote *FOR* a good candidate instead of voting against a particularly bad one?

Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil. If you want to find a candidate you can vote for, you may have to turn to outside the Republocrats.

BTW, the only think Obama hasn't done that I expected him to before he took office was invade Pakistan. Otherwise, I expected him to behave pretty much the same as Bush. And he has.
 
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I voted for Obama because he was more inline with my beliefs than McCain was. So far my feelings about him are mixed. He's done well on some things, and not as well on others. Overall, I think he has done a slightly better job than Bush did, and has done a slightly better job than McCain would have done. He's nothing special, but he's not as bad as many conservatives are making him out to be.

Not to pick on you, but what specifically was more "inline"? McCain was the ultimate centrist and you claim to be "slightly liberal". McCain was the perfect slightly liberal candidate... a one-time darling of the NYT... a "Maverick".

Not really mixed feelings....I'm disappointed because Obama should have gone a lot further....he had a mandate to do so....and he didn't have the backbone to stand up to the Republicans in congress and the conservative Democrats who stood with the Republicans. Obama tried to play to much to the middle and tried to compromise when it was clear that there was zero chance that the Republicans would compromise. At that point....Obama should have said 'OK....screw all of you...this is what the American people elected me to do" and then done it. We would all be better off....instead....we got watered down/half-baked solutions to problems that required a lot more substance to them.
So you're disappointed he didn't go far enough.

Voting for the lesser of two evils leaves you with evil. If you want to find a candidate you can vote for, you may have to turn to outside the Republocrats.

BTW, the only think Obama hasn't done that I expected him to before he took office was invade Pakistan. Otherwise, I expected him to behave pretty much the same as Bush. And he has.
Except economically. Obama has been ultra hostile to business, an illiterate, and he's been a major league moron with foreign affairs. His military choices in Afghanistan have been poor. Petreaus sorted that out to some degree after McCrystal.

He has kept the post 911 structure in place though... reluctantly... and he's made a couple major screw-ups on this front too. NYC trials for terrorists... feigning to close Gitmo.

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Mixed feelings. I did vote for him, and I do share some things in common with him politically.

I think Obama is certainly a contemplative man. There are things he hasn't gotten done that he said he would, but I can understand the reasons why that was the case if I examine the political situation surrounding it, most of the time.

Anyone who expected Obama, even if they agree with him 100%, to march into Washington and fix everything had an unrealistic expectation. There's just no way to start with the aftermath of the Bush years, and get to something resembling sanity in 4 years.

I never expected that. I do think that, considering the political climate and what he had to work with, he has gotten a lot done. And the majority of it, I'm happy with.

The Republican party is fighting dirty, and I do think he made honest and repeated attempts to get them in on the conversation. But they never wanted to have a conversation. Finally, he had to concede that isn't going to happen with the current political climate, pick his ground, and hold it. And I'm happy with that decision too.

I wish he'd made that decision earlier. I'm not even a Democrat, but it's clear to me that the Republicans don't want to have a conversation, and they haven't for years. My main disappointment is that he didn't realize that sooner. But he's there now, and he's still gotten a lot done.

I'll vote for him again, no question about it.
 
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Mixed feelings. I did vote for him, and I do share some things in common with him politically.

I think Obama is certainly a contemplative man. There are things he hasn't gotten done that he said he would, but I can understand the reasons why that was the case if I examine the political situation surrounding it, most of the time.

Anyone who expected Obama, even if they agree with him 100%, to march into Washington and fix everything had an unrealistic expectation. There's just no way to start with the aftermath of the Bush years, and get to something resembling sanity in 4 years.

I never expected that. I do think that, considering the political climate and what he had to work with, he has gotten a lot done. And the majority of it, I'm happy with.

The Republican party is fighting dirty, and I do think he made honest and repeated attempts to get them in on the conversation. But they never wanted to have a conversation. Finally, he had to concede that isn't going to happen with the current political climate, pick his ground, and hold it. And I'm happy with that decision too.

I wish he'd made that decision earlier. I'm not even a Democrat, but it's clear to me that the Republicans don't want to have a conversation, and they haven't for years. My main disappointment is that he didn't realize that sooner. But he's there now, and he's still gotten a lot done.

I'll vote for him again, no question about it.
Obama's party controlled Congress... he could have achieved most anything and they did not need ONE republican vote.

Not one.

Obama is the guy who came into office and said "you can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and expect to get things done". That was less than 2-weeks in office. Bad start, dumb move, but he thought he could bury Limbaugh. Really dumb move elevating him to that status. They even tried to paint him as the leader of the party... and look what happened. He ate their lunches.

In that first meeting Obama proved right there he wasn't going to listen... Really, really dumb move considering he had his party controlling congress. But I thank him for his idiocy. It was the first salvo that woke up the opposition.

What's that old saying... "let sleeping bears lie". He didn't... and he brought a toothless party back into the game big time... though they couldn't stop anything.

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Obama's party controlled Congress... he could have achieved most anything and they did not need ONE republican vote.

Not one.

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Heh, well, first, you're assuming that the Democratic party is as well-oiled a machine as the Republican party. It obviously isn't. I'm not even sure the Democratic party knows what it stands for (I have to give it to the Republicans for at least knowing that, even if I think what they stand for is detestable).
 
Obama's party controlled Congress... he could have achieved most anything and they did not need ONE republican vote.

Not one.

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And yet he tried to be moderate, and include everyone, and not use underhanded tactics to push an agenda. And you think that's a bad thing... Weird.
 
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