I'm not sure what you're getting at here. What deflection?
You trying ti change what I said or saying things nobody argued is the deflection.
You closed with "Marriage and religion are not completely separate"
Well nobody said they were LOL what was said is that LEGAL marriage and Religious marriage are separate and that fact stands
You seem to be arguing with every last point I make, which is odd since I have clearly argued in favor of gay marriage, and only offered a hypothetical situation in which marriage was no longer a civil issue. If religion and civil marriage are not connected in some way, I doubt gay marriage would be such a controversial issue. After all, any sensible person has to admit that gay marriage isn't a threat to society. But it does offend them religiously. Those people vote, unfortunately.
Whether you are for it or not doesnt change the inaccuracy of what you said. LOL
And I know people that are against it religiously but would never stop it because they are smart enough to understand how america works and arent pompous enough or bigoted enough to actually believe its any of their business.
It is a shame hypocrites get to vote but again thats meaningless to the topic at hand and Id never take away their right to vote because they are hypocrites.
Yes, I noticed that you attempted to make that distinction. The problem is, my point still stands. Religious people affect policies which influences civil laws. Otherwise, why can't gays get married?
No your original point does NOT stand by any stretch of the imagination. Your original point is 100% false. You could try to CHANGE it now or give qualifiers or move the goal post or better explain but what you originally said is false. Religious people do affect polices, thats true, but not what you said. So do crazy people, old people, young people, gay people, criminals, racists, etc etc. whats you point?
Also its not me, I am not attempting to make any distinction, the facts make them different period, It has nothing to do with me lol
Heres an example of how your logic is broken, you ask the question if religion isnt tied to legal marriage why cant gays get married. You think this is solid logic and means something, it doesnt.
Well lets apply your "logic" in reverse, if religion is tied to legal marriage how come religious ceremonies alone don't make you legally married?
Ill give you 3 guess but a smart person only needs one
The only one twisting words here is you. But it does look like you're getting a good laugh, at least.
Nope I'm stating facts you are trying to dance around them, play words games and offer semantics, but I do agree with you it is cracking me up lol
No ****. I didn't say power of attorney was marriage. I said people can get many of the same benefits with a power of attorney.
whoooooa are you cussing now are you mad? LOL
Nope that is NOT what you said, THIS is EXACTLY what you said "
Two people can achieve the legal rights currently allowed under marriage (without special tax status) by signing a power of attorney."
This is NOT true, two people can not achieve the legal rights currently allowed under marriage (without special tax status) by signing a power of attorney UNLESS you simply ignore some and leave some out.
are you sure you dont try to change what you say and play semantics. hahaha
Holy Matrimony is used because of the relationship between marriage and religion.
Thats nice thanks for that info to bad its not used in all LEGAL marriages and certainly isnt required lol
obviously thats why im stating facts and you are confused, im honestly trying to help you
Its hard for me to believe that you dont understand these facts I honestly believe you are just F'in with me LOL
I don't know why you're laughing your ass off, either. Being different has nothing to do with having a relationship.
Im laughing cause you are funny and this one is funny too LOL "relationship"
is this your NEW buzz word and the semantics you are going to play now. Are you going to say legal and religious marriage have a "relationship" LOL
is that what we are going with, is this the new back pedal? Well guess wat gays have a relationship with marriage and religion then too??
Im REALLY not trying to be a smart ass but posts ago you said semantics were "boring" but yet its almost all you have been offering???
Good im glad you agree with the facts now then
For every benefit of marriage, there are problems. It seems as if something so beneficial, in fact, has generally fallen out of style.
You are welcome to this opinion but it has nothing to do with the topic.
You've missed a critical point. Gays cannot marry because those bigots you mentioned earlier believe that homosexuality is a sin. It offends their religious sensibilities. The Moral Majority is influential. That is the main connection I am trying to get you to comprehend.
I didnt miss it, I comprehend it just fine, problem is they (religious/legal marriage) are still separate whether those people feel that way or not.
Can you please reword that last sentence? I have no clue what you were trying to say here LMAO.
just kidding.
Are you gonna be mad if I correct you again? I dont think You want me to reword it, I think you want me to add commas
I have HORRIBLE typing issues cause I'm usually doing many thing while on here and my brain is a way ahead of my fingers. I leave out parenthesis, commas, periods etc all the time. :/
here ill make it proper "You're right, except taxes, marriage offers no protections :roll:"
Also dont feel attacked cause thats not what Im trying to do, I just think you misspoke and instead of saying so, you tried to reworded it, and the jerk that I am I wouldnt let you