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SSM (Same-sex marriage) is wrong because?

Same-sex marriage is wrong because

  • It isn't, and should be available to all gay couples

    Votes: 65 78.3%

  • Being gay is wrong, so they can't get married

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • The sanctity of marriage. No, I wasn't laughing. I was coughing. *cough* ... see?

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • It will set a bad example for Christian youth

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I don't honestly have a good reason, but I still say no

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 14 16.9%
  • Total voters
    83
Your Star said:
Please tell me your not one of those people who think wikipedia has a liberal bias :doh
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I think it is biased yes. Not necessarily liberal or conservative. It does however lean to the politically correct crowed. I mean anyone can edit it.
 
theplaydrive said:
All of my conservative Wikipedia using and contributing friends would be shaking their heads right now.
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Like it would matter to me what your friends think? :lol:

theplaydrive said:
Source?
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The fact that many homosexuals appear to live their lives in sexual overdrive does not seem to concern leaders in the movement. In an editorial from the same issue (August 15) in which the survey results were published, The Advocate said: “[Homosexuals] have been proud leaders in the sexual revolution that started in the 1960s, and we have rejected attempts by conservatives to demonize that part of who we are.” - Are ‘Gay’ Men More Promiscuous than Straights? » Americans for Truth

The article from "The Advocate" has mysteriously been removed. I wonder why?

theplaydrive said:
Sure, since it's just the same as saying "far too many straight men and women life an immoral and repulsive style of life". You're describing promiscuity, it's pretty simple.
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No I am not.
 
Blackdog said:
Then why do you assume this has anything to do with my contact with people who are gay?
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I was just wondering, what could you possibly know about this lifestyle you describe that is so horrendous and repulsive?

This does not answer my question, but yes for many years.
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What imaginary question are you describing?

Again does not answer my questions.

Already have many times.
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Any GOOD reasons?

Kaya'08 said:
So could you specify what exactly it is mean by "that lifestyle" and what is so "repulsive" about it.
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Blackdog said:
Go to any gay bar. I have.
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You have deduced that gay's or the "gay lifestyle" is repulsive because you have for whatever reasons gone to a gay bar? Your argument is flawed because its based on circumstancial evidence at best, in a BAR.

Why dont you go to a gentlemans club and stick some cash down a womans titties as she dances on that pole, or does the straight lifestyle disgust you?

How do you know?
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You're really good at avoiding questions.

Yes.
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Fire away.
 
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Gay bars, straight bars - all young kids, feeling their oats. So what?
 
Blackdog said:
Go to any gay bar. I have.
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Why? If I even think it's a gay bar, I don't go in, largely because I'm not gay. Similarly, I don't go to cigar bars because I don't smoke cigars.
 
Blackdog said:
The fact that many homosexuals appear to live their lives in sexual overdrive does not seem to concern leaders in the movement. In an editorial from the same issue (August 15) in which the survey results were published, The Advocate said: “[Homosexuals] have been proud leaders in the sexual revolution that started in the 1960s, and we have rejected attempts by conservatives to demonize that part of who we are.” - Are ‘Gay’ Men More Promiscuous than Straights? » Americans for Truth

The article from "The Advocate" has mysteriously been removed. I wonder why?
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What's missing from your source is a comparison to straight men and women.


No I am not.
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Okay, then "gay lifestyle" is being promiscuous and the "black lifestyle" is being in jail. Thank you for clarifying. I respectfully disagree on many levels.
 
BDBoop said:
Understandable. But why does that mean they shouldn't be able to get married.
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Technically, they can, just not to each other. If someone want's to explore an alternative lifestyle, fine...more power to em, but it doesn't mean they get special rights for doing so....IMO.
 
mac said:
Technically, they can, just not to each other. If someone want's to explore an alternative lifestyle, fine...more power to em, but it doesn't mean they get special rights for doing so....IMO.
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What special right?
 
BDBoop said:
No. Men can marry women, and that's a right they have that lesbian women DON'T have. Same for women marrying men, which gay men can't do. So we currently have rights that they don't.
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Not so, they are just as free to marry someone of the opposite gender as I am.
 
mac said:
Technically, they can, just not to each other. If someone want's to explore an alternative lifestyle, fine...more power to em, but it doesn't mean they get special rights for doing so....IMO.
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Mac, I'm virtually positive you knew what I meant when I said it, and sidestepped.

It's not an alternative lifestyle. It's who they are.

Where do "special rights" come in? Ellen DeGeneres and Portia DeRossi are married. They have no different or better rights than any other married couple.
 
mac said:
Not so, they are just as free to marry someone of the opposite gender as I am.
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But they are denied the right to marry who their heart has led them to.
 
mac said:
Not so, they are just as free to marry someone of the opposite gender as I am.
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You can marry a woman, I can't, and the only reason that is, is because I am a woman, and you are a man. You have are able to do something that I can't. And that is wrong.
 
BDBoop said:
Mac, I'm virtually positive you knew what I meant when I said it, and sidestepped.

It's not an alternative lifestyle. It's who they are.

Where do "special rights" come in? Ellen DeGeneres and Portia DeRossi are married. They have no different or better rights than any other married couple.
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It may not be an alternative lifestyle to them, but is to the majority of the world. I'm afraid no matter how emotional you attempt to make the argument, the right to marry somoene of the same gender is a new right, it is not the same as being able to marry someone of the opposite gender. Just like it is also illegal for me to marry two people of the opposite (or same) gender.

It is what it is, and it is not what it is not.
 
Your Star said:
You can marry a woman, I can't, and the only reason that is, is because I am a woman, and you are a man. You have are able to do something that I can't. And that is wrong.
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I can't marry two women....marriage is between one man and one woman. What you are asking for is something new, it is not the same thing.
 
theplaydrive said:
What's missing from your source is a comparison to straight men and women.
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Don't need one it's lower. Look it up for yourself.

Better yet provide an actual survey that says otherwise. I have asked 2 people to do so already.

theplaydrive said:
Okay, then "gay lifestyle" is being promiscuous and the "black lifestyle" is being in jail. Thank you for clarifying. I respectfully disagree on many levels.
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No but that's OK. Nonsense does not an answer make.

Black is a race, not a type of sexuality. Not the same thing.
 
mac said:
I can't marry two women....marriage is between one man and one woman. What you are asking for is something new, it is not the same thing.
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Yes, but NOBODY can marry two women.
 
mac said:
I can't marry two women....marriage is between one man and one woman. What you are asking for is something new, it is not the same thing.
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But no one can marry two women. I can marry a man, you can't, you can marry a woman, I can't. We are both being denied something because of our sex, in which we had no choice in, and that is wrong. We are not asking for something new, just equal treatment under law.
 
Your Star said:
But no one can marry two women. I can marry a man, you can't, you can marry a woman, I can't. We are both being denied something because of our sex, in which we had no choice in, and that is wrong. We are not asking for something new, just equal treatment under law.
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The right to marry someone of the same sex is new...it's not the same as being able to marry someone of the opposite sex.
 
mac said:
Do you think if you keep asking that question that I will change my mind?
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I really do not care if you change your mind.

Marriage as it stands now is a special right seeing that it excludes gays. It is a right federally at least that only heterosexuals can exercise.
 
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