empireofreason
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Before "the system" arrived that makes us First World, we could always chop down a few trees and make a house. We could plant some corn and potatoes and feed the chickens. Take a few things into town and trade. This easily implemented self-responsibility cannot be done today. We are at the mercy of a system and a dollar bill. If there is no job available, we cannot get this dollar bill. It's not like you can just ignore the system, go chop some trees down or start planting food again like we used to.
I say yes. Without entitlements, we are not exploiting our full potentiality as a nation.
Can we rely upon business to create all the jobs? I don't think so, because business interests are too narrow.
Is it up to the individual to create their own business? No. Nature created many more followers than leaders. Many people just weren't made to create business and need to be just brought aboard to do things.
This leaves the government with the responsibility to bridge the gap.
What if the jobs don't exist? Are the people without jobs entitled to housing, food and health care?
If you don't keep a person sheltered, fed and with basic health care, you cannot expect them to be prepared for work.
I think the government has a responsibility to shelter, feed and provide health care for it's citizens with one caveat, the person getting the entitlement except the work from the government if they do not find work on their own.
The work should not exceed the value of the entitlement relative to the market worth. If it shown the person does not cooperate (ruling out mental illness) a bit of structure that doesn't penalize the tax payer is in order: a barb wire, rubber bullet, work camp would be a short-term alternative until cooperation is met. Presently, the government does not do this, I'd like to see this done.
What do you think? Are basic entitlements necessary? if yes, what conditions would you apply to make those entitlement fair? If not, how can you justify allowing poverty and crime that will ensue?
I say yes. Without entitlements, we are not exploiting our full potentiality as a nation.
Can we rely upon business to create all the jobs? I don't think so, because business interests are too narrow.
Is it up to the individual to create their own business? No. Nature created many more followers than leaders. Many people just weren't made to create business and need to be just brought aboard to do things.
This leaves the government with the responsibility to bridge the gap.
What if the jobs don't exist? Are the people without jobs entitled to housing, food and health care?
If you don't keep a person sheltered, fed and with basic health care, you cannot expect them to be prepared for work.
I think the government has a responsibility to shelter, feed and provide health care for it's citizens with one caveat, the person getting the entitlement except the work from the government if they do not find work on their own.
The work should not exceed the value of the entitlement relative to the market worth. If it shown the person does not cooperate (ruling out mental illness) a bit of structure that doesn't penalize the tax payer is in order: a barb wire, rubber bullet, work camp would be a short-term alternative until cooperation is met. Presently, the government does not do this, I'd like to see this done.
What do you think? Are basic entitlements necessary? if yes, what conditions would you apply to make those entitlement fair? If not, how can you justify allowing poverty and crime that will ensue?