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    Re: A Thousand Small Sanities: The Moral Adventure of Liberalism

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    And there you would be absolutely wrong, my friend. He discusses that very point. Why is it so important that you engage in ad hominem attacks rather than discussing ideas? (Maybe because you have none of your own?) It is more than obvious you haven't read a sentence of any of the book, so you are hardly qualified to comment.
    Because most conservatives have no facts. They believe in ideology over reality. The opposite of what the guy describes as liberal.They don't address real problems

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    Re: A Thousand Small Sanities: The Moral Adventure of Liberalism

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    Neoliberal economic policies only feel good to the privileged few on the receiving end of the societal wealth redistribution.
    Neoconservatism and neoliberalism both believe in redistribution in the upward direction.
    I'll continue to support it going in the downward direction if for no other reason than my recognition of the fact that, although wealth redistributed downward eventually winds up in the hands of those at the top (often before nightfall if Will Rogers is to be believed) "at least [it will have] have passed through the poor fellow's hands."

    "This election was lost four and five and six years ago not this year. They dident start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour. The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer. He knew that water trickled down. Put it uphill and let it go and it will reach the dryest little spot. But he dident know that money trickled up. Give it to the people at the bottom and the people at the top will have it before night anyhow. But it will at least have passed through the poor fellow’s hands. They saved the big banks but the little ones went up the flue."

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    Re: A Thousand Small Sanities: The Moral Adventure of Liberalism

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    The author has been in psychological treatment. Has spent time drawing nudes in his leisure. He has questioned the values of his own society. Has lived a charmed life here and abroad.

    I do not think his brand of liberalism can be very accommodating towards Christian morals and values.
    As ‘liberty’ is concerned Christianity is secondary. Christians are at liberty to practice and live their belief free of government harassment. As ‘liberty’ is concerned, all others are free to be themselves without Christian harassment.

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    Re: A Thousand Small Sanities: The Moral Adventure of Liberalism

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    And there you would be absolutely wrong, my friend. He discusses that very point. Why is it so important that you engage in ad hominem attacks rather than discussing ideas? (Maybe because you have none of your own?) It is more than obvious you haven't read a sentence of any of the book, so you are hardly qualified to comment.
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    Re: A Thousand Small Sanities: The Moral Adventure of Liberalism

    Quote Originally Posted by Sampson Simpson View Post
    Because most conservatives have no facts. They believe in ideology over reality. The opposite of what the guy describes as liberal. They don't address real problems
    I would describe Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman as conservatives. Friedman was an economist and a lot of his work focused on detailed analysis of data, as well as of historical documents from the Great Depression era. Thomas Sowell has dealt more with political disputes and the history of thought, but his work generally involves a lot of analysis of simple statistics and historical documents. When Sowell denounces large scale interventionist programs, he goes through past examples, looks at their consequences and even compares conflicting predictions made at that the time with what happened. Each of them, in other words, was deeply involved in eminently practical matters.

    You can debate the insights Denis Prager has to offer on certain subjects, such as economics, but he is very knowledgeable about history and philosophy, especially when it comes to the same issues existentialists were pondering. He thought courses on Jewish history, as well as more philosophical courses about how to live a good life and about the interpretation of biblical scripture. Again, that is practical and it involves detailed knowledge.

    I would also add Ben Shapiro to that list. Whenever he argues about policy issues, he brings up detailed descriptions of past events, current circumstances and of similar events abroad. You may disagree with his take on social issues and maybe you have other observations to bring to bear on the issue, but you cannot fault him for not looking at the details of a problem. Just as much can be said about Jordan Peterson. Although he describes himself as a liberal, he agrees with conservatives on many subjects. When he talks about the differences between men and women, that actually is part of his personal expertise (research on the psychology of personality).

    Another favorite of mine would be John Cochrane, an economist who mostly does research at the frontier of macroeconomics and finance. You wouldn't believe how complicated it is to navigate the mass of evidence in empirical finance: we have so much data we are overwhelmed and don't know how to exactly tie the dots. But he always comes up with insightful, condensed and tight ways to present the problem. More importantly here, when he makes political comments, it is always tied to his research. He gets his hands dirty with data and details about subtle points. Again, you can disagree, but you cannot call his comments shallow.


    So, here, I gave you a list of commentators who express(ed) rather rightwing views and they all do it admirably well. If anyone wonders, I also read a lot from the other side. I used to read Krugman's column but it got repetitive. However, I always love his academic publications because there is a simplicity and clarity he brings to things which are extremely complicated. I also read two books from Jonathan Haidt and likewise from Steven Pinker.

    You know, when far-left commentators make the claim that men and women are the same, that would qualify as a denial of science. Biologically and psychologically, they are different, even if they share a lot. That claim is on the same level as claiming the Earth is flat.


    The truth is that hyperpartisanship blinds by making it hard to listen to different points of view and by encouraging us to live in echo chambers. You happen to only see it on the other side because you don't let yourself listen carefully to conservatives. Some of them have interesting things to say, things that you won't figure out on your own and which definitely would enrich your own views.

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