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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Elvira kudos. If someone wants a discussion on a quote, at least include the name the quote is accredited to.
    Your right as a general rule, but in this case I didn't want to scare anyone off.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    INEFFABLE


    "Do you know what the word ineffable means, boys and girls?"
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    Re: The Limits of Language


    As with any Wittgenstein quote, itís difficult to work out exactly what he meant. All we know is that he found all his enigmatic epigrams so completely obvious that asking him for direction sometimes drove him into a rage. And, while he refused to explain much of what he said, he had a zero tolerance policy for anyone who misconstrued his words.
    Seems the guy had some serious issues. Nonetheless, he, or anyone else coming up with the phrase like
    "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent."
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    may consider that sometimes it is better to just observe, read, stay out of it.
    But of course we could delve more deeply into the concept if limitations to the spoken/written word, as we see here, or elsewhere, from behind the screen.
    Personal interactions with those with whom we are engaging are sadly missing, and so is the impact of our words, often subject to misinterpretation. Phonology and kinesics are hardly captured in a forum such as this.




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    Re: The Limits of Language

    So the lesson is, don't talk about make believe things because it undercuts the pretensions of those who make them up. In other words, it spoils their party and their vain attempt to set themselves above others.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    So the lesson is, don't talk about make believe things because it undercuts the pretensions of those who make them up. In other words, it spoils their party and their vain attempt to set themselves above others.
    Calling what is ineffable "make-believe" is effing what Wittgenstein admonished against effing.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    Calling what is ineffable "make-believe" is effing what Wittgenstein admonished against effing.
    What makes something ineffable? Because some philosopher says so?
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    What makes something ineffable? Because some philosopher says so?
    The limitations of language.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    The limitations of language.
    That makes no sense at all.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    That makes no sense at all.
    That's because your connection to language is tenuous and superficial owing to your materialistic assumptions.
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    Re: The Limits of Language

    Quote Originally Posted by Angel View Post
    That's because you're connection to language is tenuous and superficial owing to your materialistic assumptions.
    So we use language to express that we can't use language?
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