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    God commands disobedience to his word

    I chronically hear Christians say that God would never command people to go against his word... I really can't believe people that know scripture hold on to that belief... it's easily proven False yet the myth remains strangely prevalent.

    God says thou shall not kill and then orders the Israelites to kill many people including women, children, and babies that were without sin.

    Here is an example:
    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

    Numbers 21:9 ►
    So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    God commanded Moses to do the exact opposite of what he formerly commanded.

    Not to mention, it looks a bit satanic.

    God can do whatever he wants to.

    God can and has had people do the opposite of what scripture says. The first Christians did the opposite of what the Mosaic law commands. Yet Jesus said he came not to abolish the law or remove one word from the law. God changes his mind a lot

    So, if the RC does something that the Bible says not to do, who knows if it was actually inspired by God? Since God has a reputation for commanding people to go against his word, I wouldn't put it past him to be responsible for the decisions of the church councils

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by PopeADope View Post
    I chronically hear Christians say that God would never command people to go against his word... I really can't believe people that know scripture hold on to that belief... it's easily proven False yet the myth remains strangely prevalent.

    God says thou shall not kill and then orders the Israelites to kill many people including women, children, and babies that were without sin.
    Gonna stop you right here. The commandment is thou shall not murder. So you should do a little more research before you bring up the topic and accuse others of not knowing scripture

    You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13)

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...17&version=NIV

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by PopeADope View Post
    I chronically hear Christians say that God would never command people to go against his word... I really can't believe people that know scripture hold on to that belief... it's easily proven False yet the myth remains strangely prevalent.

    God says thou shall not kill and then orders the Israelites to kill many people including women, children, and babies that were without sin.

    Here is an example:
    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

    Numbers 21:9 ►
    So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    God commanded Moses to do the exact opposite of what he formerly commanded.

    Not to mention, it looks a bit satanic.

    God can do whatever he wants to.

    God can and has had people do the opposite of what scripture says. The first Christians did the opposite of what the Mosaic law commands. Yet Jesus said he came not to abolish the law or remove one word from the law. God changes his mind a lot

    So, if the RC does something that the Bible says not to do, who knows if it was actually inspired by God? Since God has a reputation for commanding people to go against his word, I wouldn't put it past him to be responsible for the decisions of the church councils

    The Bible alone Doctrine is built on a premise that blows itself up! The Bible alone is all that is needed to prove that the Bible alone is not the sole rule of sacred theology!
    https://christianforums0101.createaf...word/msg4/#new
    The contradictions only arise because of the ignorance of he who thinks there are contraindications.

    For example, "Thou shall not kill" is a translation of the Hebrew that's a bit off. More correct would be "thou shall not murder" meaning unjustified killing.

    "Thou shall not make graven images" refers to images of gods. An ordinary snake would be fair game.

    If you are looking to make what others believe look silly it's easy to do because most other people are ignorant as well, but it's a pretty hateful thing to do.

    When non-believers attempt to interpret scripture they just make a hash of it.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    You have not noticed before that the whole point of religion is a collective societal practice of lying.

    That's the point.

    Do respect.

    Do adherance to authority.

    Don't question.

    Be a sheep.

    Pay your tithes.

    Get away with stuff in your own life because everybodies at it. Just don't let it be public.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    The REALITY is that nobody living knows what the intent or exact literal interpretation of scripture is.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by PopeADope View Post
    I chronically hear Christians say that God would never command people to go against his word... I really can't believe people that know scripture hold on to that belief... it's easily proven False yet the myth remains strangely prevalent.

    God says thou shall not kill and then orders the Israelites to kill many people including women, children, and babies that were without sin.

    Here is an example:
    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

    Numbers 21:9 ►
    So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    God commanded Moses to do the exact opposite of what he formerly commanded.

    Not to mention, it looks a bit satanic.

    God can do whatever he wants to.

    God can and has had people do the opposite of what scripture says. The first Christians did the opposite of what the Mosaic law commands. Yet Jesus said he came not to abolish the law or remove one word from the law. God changes his mind a lot

    So, if the RC does something that the Bible says not to do, who knows if it was actually inspired by God? Since God has a reputation for commanding people to go against his word, I wouldn't put it past him to be responsible for the decisions of the church councils

    The Bible alone Doctrine is built on a premise that blows itself up! The Bible alone is all that is needed to prove that the Bible alone is not the sole rule of sacred theology!
    https://christianforums0101.createaf...word/msg4/#new
    God never said do not kill, He said do not Murder, big difference.

    Numbers is OT, enough said.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The contradictions only arise because of the ignorance of he who thinks there are contraindications.

    For example, "Thou shall not kill" is a translation of the Hebrew that's a bit off. More correct would be "thou shall not murder" meaning unjustified killing.

    "Thou shall not make graven images" refers to images of gods. An ordinary snake would be fair game.

    If you are looking to make what others believe look silly it's easy to do because most other people are ignorant as well, but it's a pretty hateful thing to do.

    When non-believers attempt to interpret scripture they just make a hash of it.
    The OP said :

    God says thou shall not kill and then orders the Israelites to kill many people including women, children, and babies that were without sin.
    Your response was the bolded above.

    So having the Israelites "kill many people including women, children, and babies " is not murder. Because it is justified

    I would love to hear the justification for killing the babies of people you go to war with.
    Nowadays we would call that genocide.
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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by Vetplus40 View Post
    The REALITY is that nobody living knows what the intent or exact literal interpretation of scripture is.
    Those of us who believe in the Holy Spirit know that He is with us constantly reaffirming the correctness and reality of God's word as revealed in the scriptures. As for the rest of youse, go suck eggs.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    The OP said :



    Your response was the bolded above.

    So having the Israelites "kill many people including women, children, and babies " is not murder. Because it is justified

    I would love to hear the justification for killing the babies of people you go to war with.
    Nowadays we would call that genocide.
    Yes, it was justified. God told them to do it, and God doesn't need your approval.

    That's nothing, though. According to scriptures at one point God wiped out every man woman and child on earth except for a single family.

    But not to worry. He promised not to do that again. At least not with a flood.
    Last edited by LowDown; 01-12-18 at 11:01 AM.

    If I don't answer your post it's because you lost the debate.

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    Re: God commands disobedience to his word

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    The OP said :



    Your response was the bolded above.

    So having the Israelites "kill many people including women, children, and babies " is not murder. Because it is justified

    I would love to hear the justification for killing the babies of people you go to war with.
    Nowadays we would call that genocide.
    But not "murder", so it's ok.
    I'm not going to chase you while you run around with the goalpost in your arms.

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