Hunting is ethical ?

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

Now that we are not hunter gatherers like our ancestors ,do we still have to hunt animals ?

Lutherf · Sep 17, 2017

Ask yourself, is it more ethical to breed animals specifically for human consumption or to hunt animals in their own environment?

Hunting is a good way to preserve animal populations in their natural environment. It prevents overgrazing and overbreeding.

SmokeAndMirrors · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
Now that we are not hunter gatherers like our ancestors ,do we still have to hunt animals ?

Do we have to? No.

Is there anything unethical about it? No. Actually, I think we could learn something from traditional hunters who hunt wild game, including people in developed societies who hunt.

There's a certain amount of ambivalence that goes with not knowing where your meat came from. There's a lot of people who either don't know or don't care in what sort of filthy, terrible conditions animals are kept in, and the often slow, agonizing deaths they suffer (since they are often killed mechanically, it is not uncommon for the mechanism to fail to deliver a clean death).

I don't see that ambivalence in people who actually hunt. They are abundantly aware, as they watch the animal they're tracking, that they are alive. That they experience fear and pain. They instruct to only take the shot if you're sure it will be a quick one. They teach respect for the life you took and to make use of as much of the animal as you can.

There is nothing wrong with killing to eat, and human physiology benefits greatly from moderate meat eating -- especially children, for whom it is almost indispensable for proper development.

But there is definitely something wrong with not caring about how you go about the business of taking a life.

I've thought a for a long time I should learn to hunt, to give myself a better sense of understanding of where my food comes from.

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

Lutherf said:
Ask yourself, is it more ethical to breed animals specifically for human consumption or to hunt animals in their own environment?

Hunting is a good way to preserve animal populations in their natural environment. It prevents overgrazing and overbreeding.

I support none but topic is hunting ,lutt

vegas giants · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
I support none but topic is hunting ,lutt

We do not have to....but there is no reason not to

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

SmokeAndMirrors said:
Do we have to? No.

Is there anything unethical about it? No. Actually, I think we could learn something from traditional hunters who hunt wild game, including people in developed societies who hunt.

There's a certain amount of ambivalence that goes with not knowing where your meat came from. There's a lot of people who either don't know or don't care in what sort of filthy, terrible conditions animals are kept in, and the often slow, agonizing deaths they suffer (since they are often killed mechanically, it is not uncommon for the mechanism to fail to deliver a clean death).

I don't see that ambivalence in people who actually hunt. They are abundantly aware, as they watch the animal they're tracking, that they are alive. That they experience fear and pain. They instruct to only take the shot if you're sure it will be a quick one. They teach respect for the life you took and to make use of as much of the animal as you can.

There is nothing wrong with killing to eat, and human physiology benefits greatly from moderate meat eating -- especially children, for whom it is almost indispensable for proper development.

But there is definitely something wrong with not caring about how you go about the business of taking a life.

I've thought a for a long time I should learn to hunt, to give myself a better sense of understanding of where my food comes from.

I will start another thread about cruelties in modern animal farmings .Hunting still seems illogical to me if you are not hungry in the middle of a jungle

ThoughtEx. · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
Now that we are not hunter gatherers like our ancestors ,do we still have to hunt animals ?

From a sense that we've eliminated many dangerous species that naturally control other animals population. We need to ensure that these animals don't overbreed from lack of predators and eat themselves into extinction. We are omnivores, and evolved to hunt, it's always ethical to do what you evolved to do. Is how I see it.

notquiteright · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
Now that we are not hunter gatherers like our ancestors ,do we still have to hunt animals ?

Interesting way to put the question. I have hunted predators after they raided my livestock.

I hunt deer every fall. Put two in the freezer most seasons, share some with friends.

I'm curious, do you eat meat? What do you consider questionable about harvesting game vs raising animals for the sole purpose of dying in a processing plant before they are two years old and of course never reproduce?

Do we still HAVE to hunt... for the most part no, but what does have got to do with it???

eace

SmokeAndMirrors · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
I will start another thread about cruelties in modern animal farmings .Hunting still seems illogical to me if you are not hungry in the middle of a jungle

How so?

If you can give an animal a more humane death by hunting, while ensuring they were totally free up until that moment, does it not make ethical sense to replace store-bought meat with hunting?

I mean, I'm not saying I think it's cool to kill stuff for no reason at all. But compared to store-bought meat, a conscientious hunter who consumes the animal seems to have an ethical leg up, to me.

vegas giants · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
I will start another thread about cruelties in modern animal farmings .Hunting still seems illogical to me if you are not hungry in the middle of a jungle

Bowling seems illogical to me. But some find it fun

ttwtt78640 · Sep 17, 2017

Yes. Hunting is about more than the yield of the animals culled by the hunter ("free" meat). Hunting is used to manage the population of both predator and prey animals so that balance remains. Obviously, some wild animals not only eat people but all wild animals compete for some of the same resources (territory is among them) as people and domestic animals. If you take out the predator animals then the number of prey animals rises too much and requires ever more resources. Hunting is the best way of keeping the number of wild animals within the resource boundaries that they are allocated (the resources that we did not take exclusively for ourselves and our domestic animals).

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

notquiteright said:
Interesting way to put the question. I have hunted predators after they raided my livestock.

I hunt deer every fall. Put two in the freezer most seasons, share some with friends.

I'm curious, do you eat meat? What do you consider questionable about harvesting game vs raising animals for the sole purpose of dying in a processing plant before they are two years old and of course never reproduce?

Do we still HAVE to hunt... for the most part no, but what does have got to do with it??? eace

I dont eat meat ,not

notquiteright · Sep 17, 2017

vegas giants said:
Bowling seems illogical to me. But some find it fun

LMFAO!!!!! DUDE, it's one of the few 'sports' where you can drink beer, eat nachos and bowl a heller game!!!!

eace

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

ttwtt78640 said:
Yes. Hunting is about more than the yield of the animals culled by the hunter ("free" meat). Hunting is used to manage the population of both predator and prey animals so that balance remains. Obviously, some wild animals not only eat people but all wild animals compete for some of the same resources (territory is among them) as people and domestic animals. If you take out the predator animals then the number of prey animals rises too much and requires ever more resources. Hunting is the best way of keeping the number of wild animals within the resource boundaries that they are allocated (the resources that we did not take exclusively for ourselves and our domestic animals).

if you let them alone ? Nature may find its own way.Hunting wild animals is okay if they try to harm you

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

vegas giants said:
Bowling seems illogical to me. But some find it fun

pleasee ,stupid comparison

vegas giants · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
if you let them alone ? Nature may find its own way.Hunting wild animals is okay if they try to harm you

Yes....some deer will simply starve to death or wander into town to be hit by a car

Medusa · Sep 17, 2017

vegas giants said:
Yes....some deer will simply starve to death or wander into town to be hit by a car

let lions kill them

Slingshot Bob · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
I will start another thread about cruelties in modern animal farmings .Hunting still seems illogical to me if you are not hungry in the middle of a jungle

I killed a feral hog last year, was I out of food? No, but it filled many bellies and they are destructive to agriculture, they need culling. Look at TX, they are overran in epic proportions!

Brochacholomigo · Sep 17, 2017

notquiteright said:
LMFAO!!!!! DUDE, it's one of the few 'sports' where you can drink beer, eat nachos and bowl a heller game!!!! eace

Isn't bowling the ONLY sport you can bowl in?

RetiredUSN · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
let lions kill them

Not many wild lions in the USA..........trust me, I read this on the internet.

vegas giants · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
let lions kill them

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Brochacholomigo · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
let lions kill them

We don't have any lions in South Georgia, and without someone hunting them, their population would explode beyond control. With no wolves around and cougars hundreds and hundreds of miles away, it's basically up to us and the gators to keep them in check - and the gators don't get that big in these parts.

notquiteright · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
I dont eat meat ,not

Then I'd say you have a slant on 'ethical'. Those of us who eat meat like a variety of meats, I believe anyways. I like chicken, pork, beef, most seafood, and a variety of wild game. Game has a fuller, more intense flavor, most domestic meats are rather bland compared to wild game.

Now ethics question for you. If your family depends on selling animals and predators kill them is it ethical to hunt them down and protect your income?

eace

notquiteright · Sep 17, 2017

Jesse Booth said:
Isn't bowling the ONLY sport you can bowl in?

I hear some European folks roll balls around, mostly at other balls and score it some how. I think it's a sort of bowling...

eace

ttwtt78640 · Sep 17, 2017

Medusa said:
if you let them alone ? Nature may find its own way.Hunting wild animals is okay if they try to harm you

But we did not leave them alone we encroached on their territories and killed their natural predators. It is not always harm to people that will occur. Deer are not (generally) dangerous to people but if there are too many in a given area they all suffer from a shortage of food and then must expand their "natural" range into roadways, farm fields or other areas in conflict with we the people and our food supply and domestic animals.

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