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Are Satanic Temple’s Seven Tenets Morally Superior To Ten Commandments?

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Well, are they?

  • Strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
  • The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
  • One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
  • The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
  • Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
  • People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and resolve any harm that may have been caused.
  • Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

Compare these tenets to the King James Bible version of the Ten Commandments. This is the version found in Exodus 20 and is generally accepted in Protestant churches, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches have slightly different paragraphing but generally agree.
  1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
  2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
  3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
  4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honour thy father and thy mother.
  6. Thou shalt not kill.
  7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  8. Thou shalt not steal.
  9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
  10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour’s.

HOWEVER, in Exodus 34, we can read a very different set and this is the one actually called the Ten Commandments in most bibles.

Exodus 34 . . .
12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;

16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.

18 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.

19 All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.

20 But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.

21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.

23 Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel.

24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the Lord thy God thrice in the year.

25 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.

26 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.

27 And the Lord said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
 
Strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and resolve any harm that may have been caused.
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

This is not Satanism in any meaningful sense. This is just generic Humanist stuff.

They can call themselves "Satanist," but then the Nazis called themselves "socialist," didn't they?
 
Strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo your own.
Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and resolve any harm that may have been caused.
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

This isn't Satanism. Satanism is the worship of Satan. This is just some general moral guidelines that aren't religion specific. They probably just call themselves Satanist, but factually they are not.
 
This is not Satanism in any meaningful sense. This is just generic Humanist stuff.

They can call themselves "Satanist," but then the Nazis called themselves "socialist," didn't they?

Agreed. Some of the most deadly ideologies embraced by the most ruthless bastards have had very nice, benevolent ideas offered for cover. I've yet to understand exactly what was affordable about the Affordable Care Act. It is never about what such groups say, have carved into granite, and offer in print. It's always about what they actually do that matters.
 
This isn't Satanism. Satanism is the worship of Satan. This is just some general moral guidelines that aren't religion specific. They probably just call themselves Satanist, but factually they are not.

Sort of like some who call themselves Christian but they aren't really?
 
Sort of like some who call themselves Christian but they aren't really?

Not really. Those would be Christians who claim to follow the tenets of Christianity but go against them. This is people claiming to be Satanists, but rejecting Satanism and substituting something else.
 
Not really. Those would be Christians who claim to follow the tenets of Christianity but go against them. This is people claiming to be Satanists, but rejecting Satanism and substituting something else.

Or it's more similar to people thinking that they know what Satanism is when they actually don't.
 
Or it's more similar to people thinking that they know what Satanism is when they actually don't.

You . . . don't seem to know what "similar" means, but I'll leave you to that.
 
Whatever you have to tell yourself to back out.

What's to back out of? "Nuh-uh!" -- the sum total of all you're ever able to muster -- isn't anything worth bothering with. You don't bring anything, so you are best ignored.
 
What's to back out of? "Nuh-uh!" -- the sum total of all you're ever able to muster -- isn't anything worth bothering with. You don't bring anything, so you are best ignored.

Your nonsense braying that I don't understand what 'similar' means was simply your means of backing out of addressing what I actually stated.

No biggie, it's what I've come to expect from you.
 
This is not Satanism in any meaningful sense. This is just generic Humanist stuff.

They can call themselves "Satanist," but then the Nazis called themselves "socialist," didn't they?

Most Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, they are humanists.
 
Not in a million years.

And what's more, you don't even have an objective basis for discerning which is morally superior.

No one does. However, everyone has a subjective basis for it.
 
Well, are they?



Compare these tenets to the King James Bible version of the Ten Commandments. This is the version found in Exodus 20 and is generally accepted in Protestant churches, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches have slightly different paragraphing but generally agree.


HOWEVER, in Exodus 34, we can read a very different set and this is the one actually called the Ten Commandments in most bibles.

You forget the eight tenet of satanism: Satanists, druids, and pagans are a collection of assorted freaks and creeps, and a few nice tenets doesn't change that.
 
Not in a million years.

And what's more, you don't even have an objective basis for discerning which is morally superior.

Morality is a human construct, like government, or money. For example, money has value because the vast majority of us agree that it has value and utility. Morality is a basic ethical code that the vast majority of us agree on. You don't have to have a supernatural entity to declare that money should have value for money to have value. Similarly, you do not have to have a supernatural entity to declare the concept of morality for there to be a concept of morality. In fact, if the only reason why one is moral is out of fear of punishment, then they really are not very moral.
 
You forget the eight tenet of satanism: Satanists, druids, and pagans are a collection of assorted freaks and creeps, and a few nice tenets doesn't change that.
Not a few Christian sects contain freaks and creeps.
 
Not a few Christian sects contain freaks and creeps.

True, but not all of them. There after all Methodist Christians and Anglican Christians and so on. With Satanists, you pretty much got nothing but freaks and creeps.
 
Morality is a human construct, like government, or money. For example, money has value because the vast majority of us agree that it has value and utility. Morality is a basic ethical code that the vast majority of us agree on. You don't have to have a supernatural entity to declare that money should have value for money to have value. Similarly, you do not have to have a supernatural entity to declare the concept of morality for there to be a concept of morality. In fact, if the only reason why one is moral is out of fear of punishment, then they really are not very moral.

True and there is an innate reason for that...it is the way God created man...without God's ruling mankind and mankind being in subjection to Him though, you get what we've got...a crazy, mixed up world to live in...
 
True and there is an innate reason for that...it is the way God created man...without God's ruling mankind and mankind being in subjection to Him though, you get what we've got...a crazy, mixed up world to live in...

Why would Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists etc have to believe in a Christian god? You believe that your god created the world. That's you business but you have no proof.
 
Why would Hindus, Buddhists, Shintoists etc have to believe in a Christian god? You believe that your god created the world. That's you business but you have no proof.

No one said they had to...but then again, they can't say they have not been fairly warned, either...just like in the days of Noah...
 
No one said they had to...but then again, they can't say they have not been fairly warned, either...just like in the days of Noah...

Noah is a mythical character. Warned? Why should they take notice of your book of myths? They have books of their own. You don't really believe that Noah existed, do you? I find that hard to believe.
 
True and there is an innate reason for that...it is the way God created man...without God's ruling mankind and mankind being in subjection to Him though, you get what we've got...a crazy, mixed up world to live in...

The world certainly has its problems, but statically, it is safer, less violent, and kinder today than it has ever been.
 
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