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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Come on....
    There's a difference between

    "What would cause you to..."

    and

    "What would justify..."

    Cause you to doesn't preclude you from understanding and accepting that the violence is wrong even if you're going to do it.

    Justify suggests that you feel the violence should be either morally and/or legally reasonable.

    There's also a third portion here, which would be "understandable". I.E. you recognize it's wrong, you don't think it shouldn't be viewed as wrong, but at the same time you can fully understand why it took place and can sympathize with the action.

    Finally, [inserts tongue in cheek] why are you just talking about guys? Are you stereotyping men as angry, violent individuals prone to getting into fights but somehow suggesting women couldn't be prone to violence? GOSH!

    I would say words alone (ie no additional action of any kind to give any sort of indication or context) would never create a "justified" instance to strike someone physically, though I'd say there are plenty of instances where I could say the action was "understandable".
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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Keeping the First Amendment in mind:

    What kinds of things could another person speak/shout to/at you, that in your opinion, would "justify" a violent response?
    Unless someone was getting in my face and personally threatening me and putting me in a position where I feel I need to defend myself then no words justify a violent response.

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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Keeping the First Amendment in mind:

    What kinds of things could another person speak/shout to/at you, that in your opinion, would "justify" a violent response?
    Two different questions, here. You're assuming I think hate speech would automatically be worthy of a violent response.

    No words justify a violent response, period.

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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What's the definition of a "threat" then?

    Does a verbal threat of violence, without any actual physical violence, justify a violent response?

    I am qiuite surprised by your comments. Do you realise that hate speech does not necessarily engineer an immediate violent response by the listner. Nor does it threaten the listener. The best practioners of it know better than to direct it at its intended victims. In fact the best use of hate speech is not to threaten with violence but to threaten with fear.

    Hate speech is not just verbally abusing someone that is just someone being angry and violent. Any fool can do that.

    I would suggest you google up some of goebbels speeches if you want a good example of hate speech. You will note he does not address the jews but instead the germans. You will also note that he does not incite violence against the jews. he instead gives the germans reason to fear and hate the jews. And then lets those emotions follow the natural course towards violence to the jews.

    There is a big diference between verbally abusing someone to the point where they want to hit you and manipulating people to hatred towards others. The latter is hate speech, the former is just someone being a dick.

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    Re: Your Personal Definition Of Hate Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Threats with along with an apparent ability and/or demonstrated intent to follow through.
    To further clarify.. with motivation being something like race/religion/gender/orientation/etc...
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