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All Things Point To God!

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Quag said:
Did I say checkers? I meant cribbage
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This being the zillionth identical thread, I think your first Churchill quote is wildly appropriate for the OP.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill
 
All things point to Krishna.
 
How funny, gods used to be the "cause" of everything. They made the sun rise, lightning strike, they made it rain, they granted bountiful harvests, they created all the different animals and types of life. But now that science has explained all of that, your tiny insignificant god is now reverted to "well someone had to start this whole thing!" You've tucked your god away to the one and only crevice that science hasn't quite adequately explained and then you act like you actually have something that people can learn from you. It's nothing better than a parlor game where you keep tucking your god into smaller and smaller hiding spots. It's sad really.
 
Angel said:
The Science Delusion Stops Here

How does it go? Modern science says: give us one free miracle and we’ll explain the rest.

The one free miracle was the appearance of all matter and energy in the universe, with all the laws that govern it.

And even granting science its one free miracle, its physical reductionism falls short.

Because Reality exceeds physical reality.

Time to get real, boys and girls.

Time to acknowledge the Evidence...

All things point to God

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The Universe

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Life

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Consciousness

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Appeal to Ignorance - TV Tropes
 
Quag said:
Yes it means we dont know
Claiming God did it just moves it up one level
Where did God come from? Whatever answer you give to that question can be applied to the universe but it will just be an opinion as we do not know
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RabidAlpaca said:
This being the zillionth identical thread, I think your first Churchill quote is wildly appropriate for the OP.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill
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Listen, friend and foe alike --

If we cannot account for the Universe
and we cannot account for life on earth​
and we cannot account for consciousness,​
then we really don't know a damn thing.​

So don't talk to me about science and reality.
Talk to me about poetry and music, but not about science.
Science cannot and has not told us anything of real importance in 400 years.​
 
Angel said:
Listen, friend and foe alike --

If we cannot account for the Universe
and we cannot account for life on earth​
and we cannot account for consciousness,​
then we really don't know a damn thing.​

So don't talk to me about science and reality.
Talk to me about poetry and music, but not about science.
Science cannot and has not told us anything of real importance in 400 years.​
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dont make up gods as your solution because it suites you
 
Angel said:
Listen, friend and foe alike --

If we cannot account for the Universe
and we cannot account for life on earth​
and we cannot account for consciousness,​
then we really don't know a damn thing.​

So don't talk to me about science and reality.
Talk to me about poetry and music, but not about science.
Science cannot and has not told us anything of real importance in 400 years.​
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Then please stop using the internet immediately. The next time you or your family members get sick or injured, pray it away and don't come running to science for help. Stop using a car to get around and don't get vaccines. There's some amish communities you might really enjoy.
 
roughdraft274 said:
How funny, gods used to be the "cause" of everything. They made the sun rise, lightning strike, they made it rain, they granted bountiful harvests, they created all the different animals and types of life. But now that science has explained all of that....
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In your dreams.

Once again - science has never proven that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.

Here's some recommended reading for you and your like-minded friends:

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Logicman said:
In your dreams.

Once again - science has never proven that God and the supernatural do not and cannot exist.

Here's some recommended reading for you and your like-minded friends:

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Great. That puts your god on par with big foot and the lock ness monster. Cause we haven't proved that they don't exist either. I'm glad your happy with such amazing qualifications.
 
blarg said:
dont make up gods as your solution because it suites you
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Don't say don't about what you don't understand simply because you don't understand and it suits you to say don't.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Great. That puts your god on par with big foot and the lock ness monster. Cause we haven't proved that they don't exist either. I'm glad your happy with such amazing qualifications.
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You're the one who made a bogus argument that science has somehow ruled out God in the grand scheme of things. So you're the one steeped in folly.
 
Angel said:
Don't say don't about what you don't understand simply because you don't understand and it suits you to say don't.
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unless your just trolling i understand you just fine

knock that **** off

hmmm guess i understand you either way
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Then please stop using the internet immediately. The next time you or your family members get sick or injured, pray it away and don't come running to science for help. Stop using a car to get around and don't get vaccines. There's some amish communities you might really enjoy.
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Trifles. Truffles. Tricks and Travesties.
Read some poetry. Listen to Bruckner.
As the OP exhorts -- GET REAL.
 
blarg said:
unless your just trolling i understand you just fine

knock that **** off

hmmm guess i understand you either way
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Judging by your posts, you don't understand the OP (or me). So what am I supposed to knock off? Replying to your nonsense? What?
 
Angel said:
Judging by your posts, you don't understand the OP (or me). So what am I supposed to knock off? Replying to your nonsense? What?
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maybe your just a terrible judge
 
roughdraft274 said:
How funny, gods used to be the "cause" of everything. They made the sun rise, lightning strike, they made it rain, they granted bountiful harvests, they created all the different animals and types of life.
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Even funnier -- gods still are the "cause" of everything.
roughdraft274 said:
But now that science has explained all of that...
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Science has explained nothing. Science has bestowed gewgaws on us, creature comforts, and prolonged the life it cannot otherwise account for.
 
Of course, 'all' things (that point to god?) include 'natural' disasters but those are often (yet not always?) said to be tests of our faith. It is quite convenient that god is said to control (have power over?) all yet chooses to inflict pain and suffering. Something akin to: god gives us pain and suffering so that if we respond correctly then (and only then?) we will be invited to have that pain and suffering erased in heaven (the after life?).

God does whatever he pleases (Psalm 135:6). To be sure, this means he clothes lilies and feeds birds (Matthew 6:26, 28). But he also makes lightning (Psalm 135:7). He strikes down firstborn children and kills mighty kings (Psalm 135:8). Our God holds sway over the good, the bad, and the ugly. "I form light and create darkness," he says. "I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things" (Isaiah 45:7).
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C. S. Lewis writes in The Great Divorce, "They say of some temporal suffering, 'No future bliss can make up for it,' not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory."

Lewis is not being novel here. He is simply restating what Christians have hoped in for centuries, the promise that gives all our suffering purpose: "For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal" (2 Corinthians 4:17-18).
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Seven Things the Bible Says About Evil | Desiring God

In any argument over the actions (or inactions) of God one can always play the "god works in mysterious ways" card and thus declare any point moot. ;)
 
Logicman said:
You're the one who made a bogus argument that science has somehow ruled out God in the grand scheme of things. So you're the one steeped in folly.
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I never made that argument. Do you read before you respond to stuff?
 
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