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Truth

Depends on what you're trying to find the 'truth' of.

Truth can be subjective.

Truth can be an estimate.

Truth can be final.
 
Truth is what a person subjectively believes is what happened, which also coordinates with his/her reality and with the known facts of the world. To find the truth is a matter of one's own resources and methods, for one believes a truth if he explores his reality and his mind for confirmation. Truth is also a matter of opinion for many people see different things in the same object of thought.
 
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Fritz said:
Truth is what a person subjectively believes is what happened that coordinates with his/her reality and with the known facts of the world. To find the truth is a matter of one's own resources and methods for one believes a truth if he explores his reality and his mind for confirmation. Truth is also a matter of opinion for many people see different things in the same object of thought.
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nice summation

it is subjective
 
_Sal said:
is relative and subjective

I question whether or not there can be an ultimate truth in all situations
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I don't know about that. If you burn a piece of paper then it is true that you can never fold it up again.
 
_Sal said:
is relative and subjective

I question whether or not there can be an ultimate truth in all situations
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I believe that the ultimate truth can only be decided if a "truth" is completely objective. Objective statements tell the blunt reality, regardless of someone's feelings.
 
_Sal said:
but isn't objectivity limited by ability?
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That is why the ultimate truth is hard to come by, for it can only be supported by ability/rationality and not feeling.
 
_Sal said:
agreed, but that is just one situation in which the truth is clear

in other situations the truth differs according to many variables...intelligence, sensitivity, etc. no?
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I agree. There are no hard and fast rules.
 
"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know" -John Keats
 
Nilly said:
Depends on what you're trying to find the 'truth' of.

Truth can be subjective.

Truth can be an estimate.

Truth can be final.
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I don't think truth can be subjective at all.
 
Fritz said:
Truth is what a person subjectively believes is what happened, which also coordinates with his/her reality and with the known facts of the world. To find the truth is a matter of one's own resources and methods, for one believes a truth if he explores his reality and his mind for confirmation. Truth is also a matter of opinion for many people see different things in the same object of thought.
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I disagree. If I believe, truly believe, that I can fly by flapping my arms, that's not truth. The truth would be if I ever jumped off a building to try it I would fall.
 
_Sal said:
agreed, but that is just one situation in which the truth is clear

in other situations the truth differs according to many variables...intelligence, sensitivity, etc. no?
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But that doesn't mean there are many truths, it just means there is one truth that nobody can figure out.
 
zyzygy said:
I don't know about that. If you burn a piece of paper then it is true that you can never fold it up again.
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Are you sure about that? We only know what we perceive and observe but is our observation an objective fact? Philosophically, you can make a case for their being no objective truth and even in some science this can be true as well.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I disagree. If I believe, truly believe, that I can fly by flapping my arms, that's not truth. The truth would be if I ever jumped off a building to try it I would fall.
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People will still believe something to be true no matter how absurd it is and how much contrary information is provided. People can passionately fight for a truth that isn't necessarily true. Take religion for example, there are absurd cults that people still believe to be true. Subjectivity is the truth for an individual, while objectivity is the ultimate truth.

That is why truth isn't common, for the rational/objective side of a person will come to reject something that the subjective side fabricates. Ultimate truth trumps truth. Doubt is what happens when a rational perspective a person is put on the table, which will cause the person to rethink his/her "truths."
 
Fritz said:
People will still believe something to be true no matter how absurd it is and how much contrary information is provided. People can passionately fight for a truth that isn't necessarily true. Take religion for example, there are absurd cults that people still believe to be true. Subjectivity is the truth for an individual, while objectivity is the ultimate truth.

That is why truth isn't common, for the rational/objective side of a person will come to reject something that the subjective side fabricates. Ultimate truth trumps truth. Doubt is what happens when a rational perspective a person is put on the table, which will cause the person to rethink his/her "truths."
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Just because I believe something, even if I believe it wholeheartedly, it doesn't make it true. There is only one truth.
 
Fritz said:
Subjectivity is what drives a person to fight for his/her "truths." Religious wars were fought by people who subjectively believed a concept was true.
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But there is only one truth. The truth is what is. There isn't any subjectivity to it.
 
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