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Has "metal" music become another form of degenerate art?

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Ovid said:
The irony of assuming I am Jewish to begin with. I thought Ovid was a Latin name, not a Hebrew.
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I don't know how my "assuming it" is ironic, it was not something you denied in previous pages...and I was not determining it from your name. If you are not Jewish, then yer just spoutin' Nazi rhetoric....which then does line up with the "kike" epithet.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I don't know how my "assuming it" is ironic, it was not something you denied in previous pages...and I was not determining it from your name. If you are not Jewish, then yer just spoutin' Nazi rhetoric....which then does line up with the "kike" epithet.
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When even Nazi rhetoric is closer to the truth than your silly notions of art, that should say a lot about you.
 
I'll continue to listen to Iced Earth, thank you very much.
 
Ovid said:
When even Nazi rhetoric is closer to the truth than your silly notions of art, that should say a lot about you.
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Um, this thread isn't about MY silly notions of art, it can't be, because I never expressed any. This is all about yours. If you are furthering the notion that yours line up with the NAZI pov, yer just making my point. Yer affirming and confirming it.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Um, this thread isn't about MY silly notions of art, it can't be, because I never expressed any. This is all about yours. If you are furthering the notion that yours line up with the NAZI pov, yer just making my point. Yer affirming and confirming it.
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The NSDAP in its infancy was quite a bit more virtuous than any progressive degenerate ideology, so I can say I'd be proud to have supported the NSDAP in the 1930s.

Unfortunately the party was somewhat corrupted by the notions of utopianism and progress which also inspired Karl Marx and today's progressive scourge, which led the party to commit its more atrocious behaviors and become a shadow of its former self, just as those progressivist ideologies also inspired the communist genocides of Stalin and Mao.
 
Ovid said:
The NSDAP in its infancy was quite a bit more virtuous than any progressive degenerate ideology, so I can say I'd be proud to have supported the NSDAP in the 1930s.

Unfortunately the party was somewhat corrupted by the notions of utopianism and progress which also inspired Karl Marx and today's progressive scourge, which led the party to commit its more atrocious behaviors and become a shadow of its former self, just as those progressivist ideologies also inspired the communist genocides of Stalin and Mao.
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If NSDAP hadn't embraced the progressive utilitarian ideologies which also inspired folks like Stalin and Mao, the direction of Germany likely wouldn't have been so awful; much of its national policy was quite good and productive though.
 
Ovid said:
If NSDAP hadn't embraced the progressive utilitarian ideologies which also inspired folks like Stalin and Mao, the direction of Germany likely wouldn't have been so awful; much of its national policy was quite good and productive though.
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Your ignorance of history is painful.
 
Ovid said:
The NSDAP in its infancy was quite a bit more virtuous than any progressive degenerate ideology, so I can say I'd be proud to have supported the NSDAP in the 1930s.

Unfortunately the party was somewhat corrupted by the notions of utopianism and progress which also inspired Karl Marx and today's progressive scourge, which led the party to commit its more atrocious behaviors and become a shadow of its former self, just as those progressivist ideologies also inspired the communist genocides of Stalin and Mao.
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WTF does that have to do with price of tea? I am, and you are, furthering the point and fact that you are consciously espousing NAZI rhetoric.

The really interesting and bizarre quirk in this...is that you have on display in every single post you make a piece of artwork that the NAZI's would label as "degenerate" since the artist is a Ukrainian Jew.

Talk about irony!
 
Gimmesometruth said:
WTF does that have to do with price of tea? I am, and you are, furthering the point and fact that you are consciously espousing NAZI rhetoric.

The really interesting and bizarre quirk in this...is that you have on display in every single post you make a piece of artwork that the NAZI's would label as "degenerate" since the artist is a Ukrainian Jew.

Talk about irony!
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I don't agree with most of Nazi policy, but I agree with the notion of there being degeneracy in art based on the theory of art itself, not the race of the artist.
 
Ovid said:
While I'd say there's definitely some historical talent in rock music overall, it seems that today especially "metal" has become more of a 'cult' than an actual music genre, which primarily seems to appeal to people who seem social rejects or antisocial personalities.

I notice a high ratio of love for "metal" today among the same types of miscreants who degenerate communities such as "LGBT" appeal to.

That, and much of their music undoubtedly just sucks, despite their inane, cult-like insistence that it's somehow "better" than other music, though given how aesthetically challenged most of it's members seem to be, I doubt they'd actually know a lick of music theory.

Today this is what the average "metalhead looks" like, not far different from the type of rabble who seem to be drawn to freak show communities like the "LGBT" cult.

Today I consider metal just a genre for ******s and social miscreants, and an embarrassment to those of actual talent in rock music history.
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This looks more like a work of art to me.

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For the record I'm not a "Nazi", just a nationalist who believes the NSDAP had some good ideas, and some bad ones.
 
Ovid said:
I don't agree with most of Nazi policy, but I agree with the notion of there being degeneracy in art based on the theory of art itself, not the race of the artist.
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The 2, degeneracy in art and race, especially when it concerned the Jewish race, were completely intertwined in NAZI ideology. We already established the fact that your "degeneracy" argument is NAZI rhetoric, you don't get to start playing the cafeteria art NAZI.
 
Ovid said:
Not at all. Just a critique.
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And where exactly are you seeing "metal heads" that look like that? What "metal" artists are they listening to?
 
Ovid said:
For the record I'm not a "Nazi", just a nationalist who believes the NSDAP had some good ideas, and some bad ones.
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"I'm not a NAZI, I'm a cafeteria NAZI"
 
Ovid said:
For the record I'm not a "Nazi", just a nationalist who believes the NSDAP had some good ideas, and some bad ones.
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Being a Nazi lite doesn't make you any less of a Nazi.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
The 2, degeneracy in art and race, especially when it concerned the Jewish race, were completely intertwined in NAZI ideology. We already established the fact that your "degeneracy" argument is NAZI rhetoric, you don't get to start playing the cafeteria art NAZI.
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The Volkswagen Beetle was invented in NAZI Germany? So what's your point. Even a broken clock is right twice a week.

Plus you're historically ignorant, the notion that some types of art are better than others, and some degenerate is fairly universal culturally until the degenerate post-modernist movement in which the "message" meant more than the quality of art.

I can guarantee you that most schools of high art, whether in the renaissance or in classical schools of music had very similar notions.
 
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