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Has "metal" music become another form of degenerate art?

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Ovid said:
If you understood music theory, you wouldn't be so blindly defensive.
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Actually, I do know some music theory. I played guitar for over 40 years.

You are arguing from blind, knee jerk hatred and ignorance. I feel sorry for you.
 
Porkuloss said:
Actually, I do know some music theory. I played guitar for over 40 years.
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Not that well I presume.

You are arguing from hatred and ignorance. I feel sorry for you.
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Hatred is the correct emotion to feel about that which is contemptible.

Ignorance is the refuge behind which sophists attempt to hide their stupidity. In reality it's simply that people aren't ignorant enough to buy into their web of lies.
 
The level of arrogance expressed in this thread is mind-boggling.
 
Ovid said:
While I'd say there's definitely some historical talent in rock music overall, it seems that today especially "metal" has become more of a 'cult' than an actual music genre, which primarily seems to appeal to people who seem social rejects or antisocial personalities.
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No, it doesn't seem that way to anyone familiar with the genre. You simply have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
I notice a high ratio of love for "metal" today among the same types of miscreants who degenerate communities such as "LGBT" appeal to.
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No, you actually aren't noticing that. But then, you aren't really familiar with metal in any case.
That, and much of their music undoubtedly just sucks, despite their inane, cult-like insistence that it's somehow "better" than other music, though given how aesthetically challenged most of it's members seem to be, I doubt they'd actually know a lick of music theory.
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Every genre of music has its adherents who insist that it's better than the others. This is not unique to metal, nor is it even remotely 'cult-like'. And, yes, there are plenty who know music theory.

So, again, you not only don't know metal, you don't know about the people who play it and you aren't even familiar with music in general. Why am I not surprised?
Today this is what the average "metalhead looks" like, not far different from the type of rabble who seem to be drawn to freak show communities like the "LGBT" cult.
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No, no evidence indicates that's the case.
Today I consider metal just a genre for ******s and social miscreants, and an embarrassment to those of actual talent in rock music history.

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Oh, dear. You've been triggered. And you should try out that ***** thing with, oh, Zakk Wylde, for example.

He'd likely welcome the opportunity to reeducate you in the 'laws of art'.

Why try and babble about music when you're clearly unfamiliar with it?

 
Ovid said:
We aren't talking about 'not enjoying it', we're talking about objective critique here, not subjectivity. People can not enjoy something which is objectively better, and enjoy something despite it being objectively worse. I'm not personally a huge fan of classical symphonies myself, but from a pure music theorist perspective they would qualify as more artistic than the average pop song on the radio.

In reality "genres" are just a spook of the mind anyway - there's only one music theory, from which all 'genres' derive from.
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So what is an example of music that passes as "objectively good" through your mental Music Theory Filter?

Are you an Ayn Rand fan?
 
Ovid said:
Liking anime tends to have more to do with one's taste in sexual deviances, at least when we have grown men using suggestive pictures of underage girls as their avatars.

Though one's aesthetic taste tends to transcend whatever arts they're a fan of, since aesthetic theory is where all art, good or bad, comes from.
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That's just great, Mr. Objectivity.

Beautiful insight.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it doesn't seem that way to anyone familiar with the genre.
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Those "familiar with the genre" are rarely those familiar with actual music theory, hence why they wouldn't find it that way, but those who actually understand music itself would not.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
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Thank you for proving my point, following the typical script used by everyone from infomercial pitchmen to scientology recruiters. He he.

No, you actually aren't noticing that. But then, you aren't really familiar with metal in any case.
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Being a musician who understands music theory, I'm of course more familiar with it than most actual "fans" are, despite their cultish denialism and propagation of the myth that you have to be "in their cult" to understand it.

"Genres" are just a construct, all music theory of course comes from the same 'laws' if you will.
 
Porkuloss said:
So what is an example of music that passes as "objectively good" through your mental Music Theory Filter?

Are you an Ayn Rand fan?
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I'm not typically a fan of atheistic kikes, no.
 
Ovid said:
Those "familiar with the genre" are rarely those familiar with actual music theory, hence why they wouldn't find it that way, but those who actually understand music itself would not.
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Irrelevant to what I stated. What else do you have?
Thank you for proving my point, following the typical script used by everyone from infomercial pitchmen to scientology recruiters. He he.
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You didn't have a point to prove. That you have to pretend you did only strengthens my statement.
Being a musician who understands music theory, I'm of course more familiar with it than most actual "fans" are, despite their cultish denialism and propagation of the myth that you have to be "in their cult" to understand it.

"Genres" are just a construct, all music theory of course comes from the same 'laws' if you will.
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No, you're not a musician and, no, you don't understand music theory.

Why try and pretend you are?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, you're not a musician and, no, you don't understand music theory.

Why try and pretend you are?
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Because I am in both regards far more than you.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Why do you hate yourself for being Jewish?
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I tend to hate Jews who willingly affirm every stereotype about them being greedy and vicious.
 
TheGoverness said:
Liking anime has nothing to do with one's personal music taste. For example, I am a fan of anime, and I mostly listen to Rap, R&B, and Trap music.

Nuance is a beautiful thing. Try using it sometime.
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Yes, but do you listen to K-On?

 
Ovid said:
I tend to hate Jews who willingly affirm every stereotype about them being greedy and vicious.
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So not only do you admit that you're not a musician and you don't know music theory, but you hate yourself as well?

Wow.

This thread is starting to look like a therapy session for you.
 
Ovid said:
Liking anime tends to have more to do with one's taste in sexual deviances, at least when we have grown men using suggestive pictures of underage girls as their avatars.

Though one's aesthetic taste tends to transcend whatever arts they're a fan of, since aesthetic theory is where all art, good or bad, comes from.
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Who is using a suggestive image of an underage anime girl as an avatar?
 
Ovid said:
I'm not typically a fan of atheistic kikes, no.
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So you can't give an an example of music you consider "good".

Which do you hate more, music, atheists or Jews???

Pretense.
Presumptuousness.
Ignorance.
Hatred.
Bigotry.

You've certainly got it all.
 
Ovid said:
While I'd say there's definitely some historical talent in rock music overall, it seems that today especially "metal" has become more of a 'cult' than an actual music genre, which primarily seems to appeal to people who seem social rejects or antisocial personalities.

I notice a high ratio of love for "metal" today among the same types of miscreants who degenerate communities such as "LGBT" appeal to.

That, and much of their music undoubtedly just sucks, despite their inane, cult-like insistence that it's somehow "better" than other music, though given how aesthetically challenged most of it's members seem to be, I doubt they'd actually know a lick of music theory.

Today this is what the average "metalhead looks" like, not far different from the type of rabble who seem to be drawn to freak show communities like the "LGBT" cult.

Today I consider metal just a genre for ******s and social miscreants, and an embarrassment to those of actual talent in rock music history.
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All I can say is that "art" is subjective, people like what they like! You may not, but then you likely are not their audience.
I personally do not consider shock art to be real art, but again my subjective opinion.
 
TheGoverness said:
Maybe he considers clothed anime girls as "suggestive".
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At least your avatar is of an underage girl(well, barely underage). Mine is actually an adult.
 
Ovid said:
While I'd say there's definitely some historical talent in rock music overall, it seems that today especially "metal" has become more of a 'cult' than an actual music genre, which primarily seems to appeal to people who seem social rejects or antisocial personalities.

I notice a high ratio of love for "metal" today among the same types of miscreants who degenerate communities such as "LGBT" appeal to.

That, and much of their music undoubtedly just sucks, despite their inane, cult-like insistence that it's somehow "better" than other music, though given how aesthetically challenged most of it's members seem to be, I doubt they'd actually know a lick of music theory.

Today this is what the average "metalhead looks" like, not far different from the type of rabble who seem to be drawn to freak show communities like the "LGBT" cult.

Today I consider metal just a genre for ******s and social miscreants, and an embarrassment to those of actual talent in rock music history.

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This is a joke, right?
 
The irony of a Jew labeling art as degenerate.
 
longview said:
All I can say is that "art" is subjective,
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Something which no one with any actual understanding of art would every say in any seriousness.

people like what they like! You may not, but then you likely are not their audience.
I personally do not consider shock art to be real art, but again my subjective opinion.
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Some preferences are of course objectively better than others, despite people subjectively having the ability to choose bad taste, your silly relativist nonsense aside.
 
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