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What were gods doing during the 200 million years of the dinosaur reign on earth?

CrabCake said:
If we assume...
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If you assume a false premise as true, then any resulting argument is logically not falsifiable.

There are no gods. If you break reason and assume that some god may or does exist, then any other resulting claim you make is false by definition, even if you end up claiming that the Sun rises in the East.
 
Paralogic said:
There is so much available educational information online now, that when someone is not educated, it's a statement about the individual, rather than whether or not information is available.

No, cave men, or any human species, did not live in the dinosaur ages. Dinos died off and it too another thousands of billions of years for primate mammals to evolve, and from them, eventually, the human species as we know them now.

From 1 little amoeba, to the dinos, to mammals, to primates, to humans. It's all in the Biology books.
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Your time frame is way way off.
 
RAMOSS said:
Your time frame is way way off.
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But I did put dinos before primates and humans. For the intellectual and educational level on this forum, that's good enough.
 
Paralogic said:
But I did put dinos before primates and humans. For the intellectual and educational level on this forum, that's good enough.
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No, it is not. If you are going to nag at someone for mistakes, you should be at least accurate yourself. It has to do with credibility.
 
RAMOSS said:
No, it is not. If you are going to nag at someone for mistakes, you should be at least accurate yourself. It has to do with credibility.
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Then start bitching on the ones that put primates before dinos.
 
RAMOSS said:
I can see why you have your reputation.
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... and you still do not want to bitch on the ones that put dinosaurs before primates.

Many states in the South do the same thing with their education bills ... forcing schools to preach religion and creationism instead of evolution.

That's why conservatism is a mental disorder.
 
Paralogic said:
If you break reason and assume that some god may or does exist, then any other resulting claim you make is false by definition, even if you end up claiming that the Sun rises in the East.
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Wow. Your logic leads you to conclude that claims are true or false based on the arguments someone used to support them. That's a truly bizarre epistemology.

Then again, being that you literally claimed dinosaurs pre-date the universe itself (the universe is estimated to be under 14 billion years old; you claimed dinosaurs were around thousands of billions of years ago)..I shouldn't expect much.
 
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Paralogic said:
So, when humans or any mammals were not around, for about 200 million years - read that again: 200 million years - during the dinosaur reign on the planet -- until they were all wiped out about 65 million years ago by an asteroid hitting earth and causing a mass extinction -- what were all the gods doing during that 200 million years... just waiting around, twiddling their godly thumbs until that asteroid would kill off the dinosaurs so mammals could evolve to humans and eventually worship them?
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Blowing around in the desert wastes, with some vague notion that if they just get to the edge eventually they might be believed in and become more.
 
Northern Light said:
Well.... just pointing out that the fact that only humans believing in God may mean it's because only humans are evolved enough on this planet to perceive God.

As for what Gods were doing during the dinosaur era, who knows? Ask them.
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Or weak enough to be the only species to believe they need a god.
 
Mason66 said:
Or weak enough to be the only species to believe they need a god.
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Clearly it is an evolutionary advantage to have a spiritual core, otherwise humans wouldn't have one so universally. Even people who claim to not be spiritual tend to believe in larger frameworks. We probably would've died out thousands of years ago from any number of traumatic events without being to offload our psyche onto something beyond ourselves.
 
What were gods doing during the reign of the dinosaurs? Being gods to dinosaurs, I expect...
 
Northern Light said:
Clearly it is an evolutionary advantage to have a spiritual core, otherwise humans wouldn't have one so universally. Even people who claim to not be spiritual tend to believe in larger frameworks. We probably would've died out thousands of years ago from any number of traumatic events without being to offload our psyche onto something beyond ourselves.
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The evolutionary advantage is having an advanced brain capable of complex thought. This helped humans to adapt to their environment and change the environment to their advantage if need be. The ability to think complex thoughts is a great advantage. Humans don't literally offload their psyches, they come up with mental approaches to life that aid in their coping with adversity, from religion to psychiatry. We train our brains in different ways to cope with traumatic events.
 
devildavid said:
The evolutionary advantage is having an advanced brain capable of complex thought. This helped humans to adapt to their environment and change the environment to their advantage if need be. The ability to think complex thoughts is a great advantage. Humans don't literally offload their psyches, they come up with mental approaches to life that aid in their coping with adversity, from religion to psychiatry. We train our brains in different ways to cope with traumatic events.
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I'm sure that's happening in some cases, but the array of experiences may have diverse etiologies. Assuming that all perceived spiritual phenomena are merely a result of some inherent coping mechanism or mental constructs may also be too one-sided. There have been cases of people not believing in anything having radical experiences with vivid recall.
 
Research and Development in the field of mass extinction level catalysts. :prof
 
Northern Light said:
Clearly it is an evolutionary advantage to have a spiritual core, otherwise humans wouldn't have one so universally.
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I don't necessarily think it's an "evolutionary advantage", but more a side-effect of our intelligence. Our intelligence is the evolutionary advantage.
 
Northern Light said:
I'm sure that's happening in some cases, but the array of experiences may have diverse etiologies. Assuming that all perceived spiritual phenomena are merely a result of some inherent coping mechanism or mental constructs may also be too one-sided. There have been cases of people not believing in anything having radical experiences with vivid recall.
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What do you mean by a "radical experience"?
 
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