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Why try to find "the" alligator?

cpwill said:
Hunted. A Human. Claiming that there's no indication he was doing so is like arguing there is no evidence to suggest that Barack Obama is President of the United States.
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The alligator acted on instinct. It wasn't targeting humans. Passing up other meals because it only wanted humans.
It was an opportunity kill.

Don't make it sound like if instead of a child, it had been a wild pig, or a deer, or a dog it would have not attacked because all it really wanted was a chance to kill/eat a human.
 
Dragonfly said:
The alligator acted on instinct. It wasn't targeting humans. Passing up other meals because it only wanted humans.

It was an opportunity kill.
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Yeah. And once a predator learns that it can kill and eat humans, instead of being afraid of them, it has to be killed, or it will repeat that act. It's the same reason why we put down dogs that attack people.
 
Socrates1 said:
OR maybe this ........ Rich guests were in charge of Disney’s gator policy | New York Post ..... now do you think Disney has some responsibility ?
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If the story is true and Disney knowingly allowed guests to feed alligators when it is a felony under Florida law they have some trouble. It won't be easy to prove though. I doubt the guests asked permission before they did it. But at least I was right about the cause of the attack, feeding alligators makes them dangerous to humans when they otherwise would not be. The attack was caused by foolish humans meddling with things they have no clue about. Just like Jurassic Park.
 
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cpwill said:
Yeah. And once a predator learns that it can kill and eat humans, instead of being afraid of them, it has to be killed, or it will repeat that act. It's the same reason why we put down dogs that attack people.
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That's true of dogs and other mammals. I'm still not convinced it's true of reptiles, but, as was pointed out, I don't have a lot of experience with alligators. We don't have them in California, except in zoos.
 
cpwill said:
Yeah. And once a predator learns that it can kill and eat humans, instead of being afraid of them, it has to be killed, or it will repeat that act. It's the same reason why we put down dogs that attack people.
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There is little chance that Alligators distinguish which type of animal they eat but once they no longer are afraid and stop shunning humans they are more likely to be in a position to attack one. Apparently there were guests at the resort that were committing felonies by feeding the alligators. It was only a matter of time after that. An alligator that associates humans with food often confuses that as humans ARE food. They do not have very large brains.
 
iguanaman said:
If the story is true and Disney knowingly allowed guests to feed alligators when it is a felony under Florida law they have some trouble. It won't be easy to prove though. I doubt the guests asked permission before they did it. But at least I was right about the cause of the attack, feeding alligators makes them dangerous to humans when they otherwise would not be. The attack was caused by foolish humans meddling with things they have no clue about. Just like Jurassic Park.
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So you think the NY Post made up the story ? Do you actually think anyone from Disney will admit this ?
 
Dragonfly said:
The "search" for the alligator is/was going on well after the body was recovered.

I understand trying to find the alligator when no body has been found, but that's not what I'm questioning.
The body has been recovered. Intact. Yet the search continues? Why?

It's a very sad and tragic lesson that some have learned, but spending time trying to pinpoint which specific alligator it was won't change a damn thing.
Killing "the alligator" won't prevent another alligator death in Florida.

The other alligators won't learn not to prey on small children once they hear about what happened to "the alligator" at Disney.

A two year old in the water is a very reasonable, and natural sized potential food for an alligator. Little difference in size from many other animals the gators might feed on.

There is NOT some conspiracy among gators to hunt small children.

It's a bizarre and very tragic accident. First time ever. Now how many kids have been to Disney World since it opened?
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have a nice weekend.
 
Dragonfly said:
Disney alligator attack: Investigation continues - CNN.com



Why? So it can be killed?
Which will change what?

Here's an idea, put signs around open bodies of water, rivers, creeks, and certainly on BEACHES that resorts own and manage that dangerous alligators may be present, but not easily seen.

This notion that a wild animal, doing what wild animals do, somehow get's a "taste for humans" is rather silly.

And how does anyone at this point "identify" the alligator that got the child?
According to news releases I saw the body was intact and only puncture wounds were evident. The child was not eaten.
Most likely drowned. So how does one "identify" the specific alligator?

Just seems really silly.
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I agree. They have already senselessly killed five gators. Leave them alone, and put up the signs in addition to some kind of concrete wall. Even a 6 foot wall will make a huge difference.

Now I will apologize in advance for what I will now say, but it is nature and how alligators do what they do.

An alligator seldom eats its prey immediately, instead, it drowns it, then stuffs it in the mud and lets it get soft, so at some time later it can eat the soft meat with ease.

Them looking for parts of this child in the belly of alligators was a useless waste of time and life.

That is how CROCODILES behave, not alligators.
 
Dragonfly said:
Disney alligator attack: Investigation continues - CNN.com



Why? So it can be killed?
Which will change what?

Here's an idea, put signs around open bodies of water, rivers, creeks, and certainly on BEACHES that resorts own and manage that dangerous alligators may be present, but not easily seen.

This notion that a wild animal, doing what wild animals do, somehow get's a "taste for humans" is rather silly.

And how does anyone at this point "identify" the alligator that got the child?
According to news releases I saw the body was intact and only puncture wounds were evident. The child was not eaten.
Most likely drowned. So how does one "identify" the specific alligator?

Just seems really silly.
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i dont mind kilign animals that kill humans id rather we eat other things then be eaten or killed
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
I agree. They have already senselessly killed five gators. Leave them alone, and put up the signs in addition to some kind of concrete wall. Even a 6 foot wall will make a huge difference.

Now I will apologize in advance for what I will now say, but it is nature and how alligators do what they do.

An alligator seldom eats its prey immediately, instead, it drowns it, then stuffs it in the mud and lets it get soft, so at some time later it can eat the soft meat with ease.

Them looking for parts of this child in the belly of alligators was a useless waste of time and life.

That is how CROCODILES behave, not alligators.
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Your broken US Justice system does not incentivize doing the smart reasonable thing much/most of the time.

That of course is a big ****ing problem.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Your broken US Justice system does not incentivize doing the smart reasonable thing much/most of the time.

That of course is a big ****ing problem.
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Now, there's an interesting post.
From someone who says he's in Washington, "your" justice system.
Then, we're talking about alligators. Imagine putting an alligator on trial.
Then, there's the sig line: Time for Trump. I suppose that explains the rest of the post.
 
Dragonfly said:
Disney alligator attack: Investigation continues - CNN.com



Why? So it can be killed?
Which will change what?

Here's an idea, put signs around open bodies of water, rivers, creeks, and certainly on BEACHES that resorts own and manage that dangerous alligators may be present, but not easily seen.

This notion that a wild animal, doing what wild animals do, somehow get's a "taste for humans" is rather silly.

And how does anyone at this point "identify" the alligator that got the child?
According to news releases I saw the body was intact and only puncture wounds were evident. The child was not eaten.
Most likely drowned. So how does one "identify" the specific alligator?

Just seems really silly.
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It's not y, actually. Animals that attack humans are more likely to attack humans again in the future than animals that having never attacked humans.
 
Killing all the alligators in that lagoon was probably mostly for show. But, from what I've read about alligators, it's rather futile in Florida. More will come back!

Unfortunate that Disney did not post No Swimming/We have Alligators, instead of just No Swimming. Naturally people from Nebraska, would not think of Alligators, especially at a Disney place. Disney would be wise to settle, and settle big, to avoid more publicity and the incident going to court.
 
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