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Roadside Memorials

Serenity said:
I'm familiar with this particular memorial. It's origin is my Country, not yours. All the whining you are doing about roadside memorials in your Country, surely you could find a picture from there to use.
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What the hell does that have to do with the generic aspect of the question? Seriously.

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radcen said:
What the hell does that have to do with the generic aspect of the question? Seriously.

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What the hell does a roadside memorial erected initially by Police Officers involved in the murder investigation of a murdered child stuffed into a suitcase and then thrown into the bushes on the side of a remote Country road in Australia have to do with THIS gripe from an American poster

If you're not familiar with this concept, it's when friends and family members leave a small "shrine" at a place along the road where a loved-one has died from some type of accident.
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It wasn't a shrine left by family members and she didn't die from an accident, she was murdered.

Do you have an issue with her memorial?
 
Serenity said:
What the hell does a roadside memorial erected initially by Police Officers involved in the murder investigation of a murdered child stuffed into a suitcase and then thrown into the bushes on the side of a remote Country road in Australia have to do with THIS gripe from an American poster



It wasn't a shrine left by family members and she didn't die from an accident, she was murdered.

Do you have an issue with her memorial?
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You're unnecessarily and illogically splitting hairs. Even though most are put in place by family and/or friends, *who* or *why* the memorial is in place isn't really the point of the original question, nor should it be. Attaching emotion to an individual scenario, no matter how tragic, does not invalidate the overall general point of the question.
 
radcen said:
You're unnecessarily and illogically splitting hairs. Even though most are put in place by family and/or friends, *who* or *why* the memorial is in place isn't really the point of the original question, nor should it be. Attaching emotion to an individual scenario, no matter how tragic, does not invalidate the overall general point of the question.
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Any particular reason you ignored my question?

Do you have an issue with a roadside memorial on a remote country road in Australia that was started originally by Police Officers involved in the investigation of the murder of what was for months, a nameless child?
 
Serenity said:
Any particular reason you ignored my question?

Do you have an issue with a roadside memorial on a remote country road in Australia that was started originally by Police Officers involved in the investigation of the murder of what was for months, a nameless child?
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Yes, because it's irrelevant.

Start another thread about the reason behind that specific memorial, invite me, and I may chime in.
 
radcen said:
Yes, because it's irrelevant.

Start another thread about the reason behind that specific memorial, invite me, and I may chime in.
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Weak sauce. How is it irrelevant when the OP has introduced the specific memorial into this thread for discussion by posting the picture?
 
Serenity said:
Do you have an issue with her memorial?
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No. But also yes.

If my child was murdered you might as well kill me too, but if I'm left alive, the absolute very last damned thing I'd want to see is a reminder of the spot where either she was killed, or the spot where her body was dumped. Do you not get the absolute morbidity of that?

Why not memorialize her life in a spot where she thrived? Perhaps a memorial at her school? Or dedicate a garden to her some place where people can safely visit and meditate?

There's a multitude of ways a person can be remembered, and for the life of me I don't understand why people would want to specifically target the exact place where somebody died a violent, tragic end.

Celebrate the life of somebody. Don't "force" people to reflect upon the way it all ended for them.
 
Serenity said:
Weak sauce. How is it irrelevant when the OP has introduced the specific memorial into this thread for discussion by posting the picture?
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Was the photo specifically identified in the OP? No, it wasn't. It was intended as a generic representation. I believe you know that.
 
Dragonfly said:
Why not memorialize her life in a spot where she thrived? Perhaps a memorial at her school? Or dedicate a garden to her some place where people can safely visit and meditate?
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Ive already stated that It wasn't until seven years after she died and four months after her bones were found in a suitcase on the side of that highway, that her remains were released and she was finally laid to rest. The Police started the memorial after her remains were discovered. For months after they found her, they didn't know who she was and her remains were left unclaimed. Difficult to memorialize her life in a spot she thrived when they didn't even know who the hell she was. Eventually they discovered that her mother had also been murdered and dumped in another location. Her mother had been estranged from her own family since 2008. No one had reported this little girl missing even though she had been dead for over 7 years. She had no known family.

I cannot understand how anyone could have an issue with her initial memorial instigiated by the Police. Eventually she was identified and she was laid to rest with her Mother.
 
radcen said:
What the hell does that have to do with the generic aspect of the question? Seriously.

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It shows you cold, heartless mother****ers don't care about the death of a little child (that seems to be the message to me).
 
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radcen said:
Was the photo specifically identified in the OP? No, it wasn't. It was intended as a generic representation. I believe you know that.
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I know that you continue to to turn yourself inside out to avoid answering a question and that were getting nowhere so I believe we're done.

Good day.
 
Serenity said:
I know that you continue to to turn yourself inside out to avoid answering a question and that were getting nowhere so I believe we're done.

Good day.
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You're trying to emotionalize a generic question. The suggestion has been put forth that you start a thread specifically for that question, so that this thread can remain un-derailed. You don't seem to want to do so. :shrug:
 
X Factor said:
It shows you cold, heartless mother****ers don't care about the death of a little child (that seems to be the message to me).
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Possibly, quite possibly, the dumbest and most ridiculous statement I've read on this forum in quite some time.
 
Dragonfly said:
What are your thoughts on roadside memorials?

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If you're not familiar with this concept, it's when friends and family members leave a small "shrine" at a place along the road where a loved-one has died from some type of accident.

Do you find these to be morbid?
Is it a distraction that could be dangerous? (causing people to take eyes off road in a dangerous place)
Is it a good reminder to slow down and pay attention?
Is it a touching memorial?

Should there be a time limit to how long such memorials can remain along a road?
Some of these things can get quite gaudy and trashy looking over time.

Have you, or would you do something similar for a friend or family member should they meet a tragic end on the road somewhere?

Me personally, I don't particularly like these things. I don't know why people would want to be reminded of the exact spot and circumstances around how a loved-one was killed.

I think a simple white cross is fine, but I really don't like the ones that get built into HUGE distractions.

I'd really be fine with a one year, two year tops, time limit on most of these things.

What are your thoughts on such "memorials"?
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I think they are beautiful.

I don't have a problem with them being periodically cleared out to keep the roadsides from being overly cluttered. But I think this is one of those issues that is best handled at a local level rather than a one size fits all statewide regulation. Being that this is a cultural issue, it should be up to the people within that community. There may be cities and counties where these kinds of memorials are a widely accepted part of the culture and they would prefer to keep them out there indefinitely while other cities or counties might see these things as only a meaningless distraction. Let it be decided at the city or county level where the culture of the community can dictate how they want such things to be handled.

Personally, I think they are beautiful and I love the fact that these kinds of memorials can help us remain connected with those who have passed on.
 
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