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God exists as a Creator because all living beings have fathers and mothers

Kelfuma said:
All I'm saying is that there must have been something to create everything we now see.
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True, but there's nothing to suggest that the "something" that created it did so with specific intention, and a plan.
In other words it's extremely possible the "something" is not a "being", not a god, not a designer, not a body, and not of some level of intelligence.

It's possible it was just accidental, random chance.

Does accepting the idea that something like that is even remotely possible potentially change your life in any way, shape, or form?

Hint: it shouldn't
 
Kelfuma said:
I can't give you proof of an opinion.
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Honesty is appreciated,

What the rest of us do in such cases is continue being honest and claim the obvious which is: We do not know. The religious on the other hand would rather fill in the gap of ignorance with BS nonsense so as not only to feel better under such illusions but to be paid for spreading such nonsense on the non-critically thinking minds out there. At these time some of them even get rich by that!
 
dimensionallava said:
these are three questions that are asked 45% said God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so. anyways whats the difference if your saying you don't beleive in evolution then your saying the earth is 6000 (or whatever) years old how else did anyone get here? are you saying there are christians who deny evolution but still the earth is millions of years old?


1) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process,
2) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process,
3) God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.
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Okay so youre not listening or youre rationalizing the statistics you brought up. Cool.
 
Kelfuma said:
Otherwise, why do children have fathers and mothers?
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I don’t think anyone else picked up on this but I don’t see the connection between the existence of reproduction and the existence of a specific god.

Kelfuma said:
And if God didn't exist, we wouldn't be saying God doesn't exist because saying that implies God exists but you're only denying such existence.
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God obviously exists as a concept but that doesn’t have any impact on it existing as a reality. Lots of concepts exist that aren’t real and anyway, there are millions of different (and contradictory) god concepts which can’t all be real.

Kelfuma said:
I think we are all too confused when it comes to the word 'God'. I propose that we divide God up into different terms according to the Urantia Book.
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Why? I must admit I’ve never heard of this book but what rational is there to establish this categorisation and for what purpose is it being done?
 
dimensionallava said:
so which god are we talking about thor, zues, shiva?
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There is no "we" here, only you. All I am talking about is how constraining the human concept of time may be.
 
laska said:
Eternal offspring would suggest there is no beginning or end meaning possibly there never was a Father who was not once a Son.
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What about grandsons?
 
DDD said:
Hello brother.

When did our Mom sent you over there down under everything important?

;)
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Took me a minute but I finally got it... :lol:
 
laska said:
Eternal offspring would suggest there is no beginning or end meaning possibly there never was a Father who was not once a Son.
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so why should that thought only apply to god and not all things?
 
nota bene said:
There is no "we" here, only you. All I am talking about is how constraining the human concept of time may be.
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So is it fair to say the concept of time is something only a select few can understand?

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If God is absolute perfection he has no need or want and therefore has no need to create anything.
 
dimensionallava said:
so why should that thought only apply to god and not all things?
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I think it does. Matter is eternal with no beginning or end. It was not created from nothing and has always existed in some form or another. My theory is that there have been infinite universes, and the seeds for infinite more universes.
 
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Kelfuma said:
Otherwise, why do children have fathers and mothers? Why do bacteria have a parent bacteria that underwent binary fission? Why do plants originate from other plants? Why do our body cells undergo mitosis to produce more body cells? Why do body cells need other body cells to be created? Why can't we just be born from only rocks and trees because we have a lot more of those than we have humans? And if God didn't exist, we wouldn't be saying God doesn't exist because saying that implies God exists but you're only denying such existence. We cannot think of something that does not exist so God exists simply because we think of God even when denying God.

In this context, God means a universal Creator. The First Source and Center, the first action, the infinite and the eternal, the one thing we can never fully understand because we can never fully understand everything.

I think we are all too confused when it comes to the word 'God'. I propose that we divide God up into different terms according to the Urantia Book.

God could be a Father, a Devil, a sadistic scientist, a universal constant, a judge, a law, a Supreme Being, a creation of Man and the list goes on and on.
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So who is gods mother and father?
 
Quag said:
So who is gods mother and father?
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In my line of thinking there would be an infinite and endless line of Father's and Mothers, and we are part of this as Their offspring, and if we achieve exaltation, we will join this line in the eternities. The same process we are going through has been gone through by all of Them. But our God is our Eternal Father, who is described in the Bible as being the God of gods.
 
laska said:
In my line of thinking there would be an infinite and endless line of Father's and Mothers, and we are part of this as Their offspring, and if we achieve exaltation, we will join this line in the eternities. The same process we are going through has been gone through by all of Them. But our God is our Eternal Father, who is described in the Bible as being the God of gods.
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But who is his father and mother? and If he is our father who is our mother?
 
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