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Dutch IRS victorious over Scientology

Peter King

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Like in the US, churches and religious foundations/organizations that do good works, are exempt from taxation.

Scientology in the Netherlands has been fighting the Dutch belastingdienst (IRS) to also be granted tax exempt status, it has lead to a lengthy trial that even went up to our version of the supreme court and sent back again.

Yesterday, in a very critical ruling, the court has decided that Scientology is not entitled to tax exempt status.

Our supreme court sent the case back to a lower court because it ordered a substantial investigation into the bookkeeping of the Scientology organization in the Netherlands.

That investigation concluded that Scientology was not a charitable/organization that does good works and needed to be tax exempt because they received a lot of donations, etc. Instead, the investigation showed that Scientology's own money had been largely earned by services provided by the church for which it had been asking (on average) about 588 dollars an hour from the people taking those courses/services.

Scientology uses considerable (in monetary value) and fixed rates and mostly acts and charges like a commercial enterprise and not like a church/religious organization for the common good.

The Scientology church had been complaining that it was entitled to get the tax exempt status because refusing them that tax exempt status would be a sign of discrimination and denial of freedom of religion (on the part of the Dutch IRS).

In Europe the church is being investigated in some countries for being a criminal organization (Belgium) and in France it was found guilty of fraud. In the Netherlands top legal experts say that they hope that law enforcement is keeping an eye on Scientology due to the aggressive donation practices Scientology levies on it's members.
 
Good it is a criminal organisation. It owes millions in taxes and fees in Denmark. It is not considered a church in Germany I believe.. This organisation should be registered as a criminal organisation along the lines of the mafia.
 
Like in the US, churches and religious foundations/organizations that do good works, are exempt from taxation.

Scientology in the Netherlands has been fighting the Dutch belastingdienst (IRS) to also be granted tax exempt status, it has lead to a lengthy trial that even went up to our version of the supreme court and sent back again.

Yesterday, in a very critical ruling, the court has decided that Scientology is not entitled to tax exempt status.

Our supreme court sent the case back to a lower court because it ordered a substantial investigation into the bookkeeping of the Scientology organization in the Netherlands.

That investigation concluded that Scientology was not a charitable/organization that does good works and needed to be tax exempt because they received a lot of donations, etc. Instead, the investigation showed that Scientology's own money had been largely earned by services provided by the church for which it had been asking (on average) about 588 dollars an hour from the people taking those courses/services.

Scientology uses considerable (in monetary value) and fixed rates and mostly acts and charges like a commercial enterprise and not like a church/religious organization for the common good.

The Scientology church had been complaining that it was entitled to get the tax exempt status because refusing them that tax exempt status would be a sign of discrimination and denial of freedom of religion (on the part of the Dutch IRS).

In Europe the church is being investigated in some countries for being a criminal organization (Belgium) and in France it was found guilty of fraud. In the Netherlands top legal experts say that they hope that law enforcement is keeping an eye on Scientology due to the aggressive donation practices Scientology levies on it's members.

Though, I tend to think that Scientology should probably be treated as a religious organization, if they treat the Calvinists and RC the same and had not confirmed the tax status to the organization that seems fair. More disconcerting were the tax decisions against the Netherlands and Luxembourg by the European High Court yesterday that wants Fiat and Starbucks to pay back-taxes although the governments had determined and confirmed the tax status which was a factor in choosing the country as headquarters.
 
Good it is a criminal organisation. It owes millions in taxes and fees in Denmark. It is not considered a church in Germany I believe.. This organisation should be registered as a criminal organisation along the lines of the mafia.

Why does that attitude not surprise me in you. ;)
 
This is why scientology is correctly written $cientology. Good for the Dutch.
 
crushing freedom of expression in every way, how progressive of them

And how did they crush freedom of expression? $cientology can still express themselves.
 
Though,
I tend to think that Scientology should probably be treated as a religious organization,
if they treat the Calvinists and RC the same and had not confirmed the tax status to the organization that seems fair. More disconcerting were the tax decisions against the Netherlands and Luxembourg by the European High Court yesterday that wants Fiat and Starbucks to pay back-taxes although the governments had determined and confirmed the tax status which was a factor in choosing the country as headquarters.



Who's stopping you from donating all of your assets to them in the USA?
 
And how did they crush freedom of expression? $cientology can still express themselves.

Just not in the Netherlands where neither freedom of speech nor freedom of religion is a recognized right.
 
Just not in the Netherlands where neither freedom of speech nor freedom of religion is a recognized right.

Define religion. Am I allowed to make up a religion and get it recognized by the government?
 
Who's stopping you from donating all of your assets to $Cientology in the USA?

That was my thought, when I read it. Of course, the Seminars will be held elsewhere now.
 
Just not in the Netherlands where neither freedom of speech nor freedom of religion is a recognized right.

Yet $cientology can still express themselves and can still identify themselves as a religious organization. They just can't get tax breaks. So, tell me how they are crushing $cientololgy's freedom of expression again?
 
Yet $cientology can still express themselves and can still identify themselves as a religious organization. They just can't get tax breaks. So, tell me how they are crushing $cientololgy's freedom of expression again?

You dont think having other religions get tax breaks and not scientology is an impediment to that religion?
 
Yet $cientology can still express themselves and can still identify themselves as a religious organization. They just can't get tax breaks. So, tell me how they are crushing $cientololgy's freedom of expression again?

If other religious organizations get tax breaks and Scientology does not? That is obviously a measure discriminating against the free expression of the religion that that society dislikes.
 
You dont think having other religions get tax breaks and not scientology is an impediment to that religion?

Do you think that not getting tax breaks eliminates someone's belief in a religion?
 
If other religious organizations get tax breaks and Scientology does not? That is obviously a measure discriminating against the free expression of the religion that that society dislikes.

Unless that "religion" has been determined to not meet the criteria of a religion.
 
Do you think that not getting tax breaks eliminates someone's belief in a religion?

It certainly hinders new people from believing in that religion and proselytizing is a big part of a lot of religions
 
Why does that attitude not surprise me in you. ;)

LOL have you ever looked into Scientology? It is a pyramid scheme.. which is illegal in most countries. They steal money from people, and worse. A Time journalist who did an expose on the organisation 20 years ago or so, is still living in hiding. Scientology is no religion period and should not be treated as one.
 
Just not in the Netherlands where neither freedom of speech nor freedom of religion is a recognized right.

Freedom of religion.. but Scientology is not a religion and never has been. You do understand how Scientology was first recognized as a religion? Their leader was running from the IRS for owning millions in back taxes. He lived on a boat in international waters to avoid justice.... and when Scientology, a religion based on a sci-fi writers ramblings.. was recognized, then he suddenly did not owe those taxes..

Scientology is a criminal organisation .. there is no doubt about that. The "freedom of religion" bull**** is protecting them.. they did what the Coso Nostro never could... legalized criminality.
 
crushing freedom of expression in every way, how progressive of them

How on earth does that crush freedom of expression? They can say whatever nonsense they want to believe, no one is saying they cannot audit or proclaim the fairy tales they proclaim as their faith where ever and whenever they want to, they just cannot do this under a tax exempt status.

It has something to do with business model, not faith and good deeds and it most certainly has nothing to do with crushing freedom of expression.
 
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