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Why is the Pope special?

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I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
 
It's the hat. Anyone who wears that pointy thing must be special.
 
Your Star said:
I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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To the truly faithful and those who truly try to live by the teachings of the Catholic Church, he represents to them Christ in our time. He challenges them in all they do and think.

However, in more advanced societies, such as his visit to America, he's simply a tool to be used in the promotion of one political agenda or another. Those who want to use his message are willing to ignore the misogyny, the pedophilia, the elitism, and the greed of the Catholic Church. He's no better than the Wizard of Oz.
 
Your Star;1065072148[B said:
]I mean, he's just another dude.
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[/B]Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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Wrong.

He's the elected leader of 1.25 billion Catholics on this planet.

Think about that a little bit.
 
CanadaJohn said:
To the truly faithful and those who truly try to live by the teachings of the Catholic Church, he represents to them Christ in our time. He challenges them in all they do and think.

However, in more advanced societies, such as his visit to America, he's simply a tool to be used in the promotion of one political agenda or another. Those who want to use his message are willing to ignore the misogyny, the pedophilia, the elitism, and the greed of the Catholic Church.
He's no better than the Wizard of Oz.
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1.25 Billion people on this planet belong to the Catholic Church.

How many followers does the Wizard of Oz have? Fill us in.

:lamo
 
Your Star said:
I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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He's about as special as the Queen Of England.

A figure head at best for most, but one who also wields a fair amount of power and influence over a rather large quantity of people.

At least the current pope appears to be a little more level-headed and "modern" than any of the previous popes.
 
The Pope is special because the Pope is the Pope.

Only one guy at a time can be the Pope and there are 1.25 Billion Catholics on this planet.

Think about it.
 
shrubnose said:
Wrong.

He's the elected leader of 1.25 billion Catholics on this planet.

Think about that a little bit.
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Some guys in dresses elect him and then he gets a hot line to god. How does that work?
 
Dragonfly said:
Popcorn is special because popcorn is popcorn.

See how that works.
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I do not think your analogy is an apt one. There is but a single Pope of the Catholic Church. One in the entire world. There is lots and lots and lots of popcorn.

And I guess that does make him special by virtue of holding that position.
 
shrubnose said:
The Bible was dreamed up before the Pope existed, how could those who dreamed it up have any idea what kind of person any Pope would be? Fill us in.

:lamo
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I'm glad you agree that there are no prophecies in the bible.
 
Your Star said:
I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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Why is the Pope special?

Because over 1/6th of the world believes he is.

And that's special in itself! (and a whole lot of clout)
 
The Pope is first among equals, he's the Bishop of Rome, much like any dioceses in Georgia has. (or anywhere else) His is the seat of Peter, Peter was Pope. The first one. He is in line with Peter. Think of it along the lines of dharma transmission. Zen masters (good god I hate that term) can trace their lineage all the way back to Buddha.

It is ontologically impossible for the Pope to be anything but a man as he is the Vicar of Christ, he, like priests, have the hardware which allows them to take on the persona. Women don't.

With the (in my opinion) overly gratuitous adulation they bestow on Mary, it really makes the "They hate women" BS a little hard to swallow. Of course, Mary was the first Christian, and the Mother of God, so you know, I can see why she gets mad props.

There is a list of qualifiers as long as my arm as to when the Pope is infallible. He just doesn't get that.. Like a magic decoder ring or something.


Now don't get me wrong, I know full good and well this was a "Hey everyone let's all gang up and bash Catholics" thread and that not a damn thing I wrote is going to keep people from making uncouth, disgusting, BS comments about homosexual priests molesting pubescent boys all the while erroneously calling it pedophilia or something of the like, but you know I always try to think the best of people and just pass along a little knowledge for those who, you know, might want to learn.
 
shrubnose said:
The Pope is special because the Pope is the Pope.

Only one guy at a time can be the Pope and there are 1.25 Billion Catholics on this planet.

Think about it.
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iow, 1.25 Billion idol worshipers.
 
shrubnose said:
It doesn't work. Try telling that to the Pope the next time that you meet him.

:roll:
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The point being, something is only special if you think it's special.

I don't think the pope is any more special than many other people.

If one of my daughters was on a sinking boat with the pope and I could only save one of them I'd sure as hell save my daughter.

People "worship" the ground Paul McCartney walks on. Women used to cry and faint when they saw the Beatles perform.

What's "special" to one group of people isn't anything special to others. As I said in another post, it's much like the royal family in England. For many they're special, for others they're rather not special and quite often rather embarrassing.

But you know, whatever it takes to get you through the day.
I'm about 30 miles south of where the Pope is, and I couldn't care less about his being there.
 
CanadaJohn said:
To the truly faithful and those who truly try to live by the teachings of the Catholic Church, he represents to them Christ in our time. He challenges them in all they do and think.

However, in more advanced societies, such as his visit to America, he's simply a tool to be used in the promotion of one political agenda or another. Those who want to use his message are willing to ignore the misogyny, the pedophilia, the elitism, and the greed of the Catholic Church. He's no better than the Wizard of Oz.
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Good morning, CJ. :2wave:

He seems to be stressing "redistribution of wealth," as BHO is also doing. I'm not clear exactly what they mean by that, and how it is to be accomplished. Most religions teach that we should help feed the hungry, help the widows and orphans, and do what we can to give aid to those in need. . .as individuals. I believe we do that, either directly or by donating to organizations like the Food Bank and various charities, which are usually manned by volunteers who receive no payment for their labor. As someone pointed out on here, no religion teaches that we are to give what we earn to the government to distribute as it sees fit, who of course then takes credit for being benevolent. Moreover, this requires paying a salary to those doing the necessary paperwork, so the poor aren't receiving all the money meant for them from the very beginning. Surely this can't be the best solution to this problem? As Vesper pointed out in her post, she can go to the store and spend her own money to buy groceries for a family that needs help, and they're going to receive it all.

It's 54 degrees here, so Fall is definitely on its way! :shock:
 
Your Star said:
I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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He's the head of a massive (get it massive?), powerful, and wealthy global organisation, whose billions of followers believe he's invested with authority from the bearded Jew of the sky. Yes, he is just a dude, but he's also a key element to many peoples faith.
 
And also a key element in protecting pedophile priests.
 
Your Star said:
I mean, he's just another dude. Always a dude, but that's another thread entirely. Anyways, he gets elected by a bunch of cardinals, and now he's the most holy person on Earth and completely infallible? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
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You misunderstand infallibility, as do many others. No pope is "completely infallible," and "infallible" statements are exceedingly rare. This article explains:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/wo...-infallible/L9Qfm87wbXU6yQUTjoYGFJ/story.html
 
He leads over a billion people, well, in their spiritual lives.

Not a catholic, nor a fan of the pope (as a position) or the worship the position entails, but it's a pretty clear-cut thing.
 
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