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calamity said:
It may help to better explain the historical context in which the Bible was written, both testaments. But, I seriously doubt it would dispel the obvious bull**** written between the good Book's covers.
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Well, as I said early on, there were some apparent children's stories that got mixed in with it --

- Moses' own story about the rainbow

- the later story about the talking donkey

- the 3 guys walking around in the furnace.

The entire compilation spans 1,000 years so the edits must have given rise to some errors.

Only the Protestant mind set of the Hand Of God reaching down from Heaven and writing the Bible in English should suffer from those small corruptions.

If you recognize the origin of the compilation and the many authors who had custody of it and wrote in it, then it makes perfect sense that it has some obvious bull---- within it, sure.

The Greco-Christian philosophical notions that God(s) is/are all-knowing, all-seeing, all-present at once, infinite -- these erroneous notions must be discarded as well when one seriously credits the compilation for what it is -- the combined experiences of several special men with a uniquely powerful Being.

You can call it all a storybook if you want, and that is certainly your right. But anyone who does did not learn to appreciate the stupendous effort that went into it well over 1,000 years, from 1450 BCE to 450 BCE and then again for about 40 years from 60 AD to 100 AD.
 
Riveroaks said:
Well, as I said early on, there were some apparent children's stories that got mixed in with it --

- Moses' own story about the rainbow

- the later story about the talking donkey

- the 3 guys walking around in the furnace.

The entire compilation spans 1,000 years so the edits must have given rise to some errors.

Only the Protestant mind set of the Hand Of God reaching down from Heaven and writing the Bible in English should suffer from those small corruptions.

If you recognize the origin of the compilation and the many authors who had custody of it and wrote in it, then it makes perfect sense that it has some obvious bull---- within it, sure.

The Greco-Christian philosophical notions that God(s) is/are all-knowing, all-seeing, all-present at once, infinite -- these erroneous notions must be discarded as well when one seriously credits the compilation for what it is -- the combined experiences of several special men with a uniquely powerful Being.

You can call it all a storybook if you want, and that is certainly your right. But anyone who does did not learn to appreciate the stupendous effort that went into it well over 1,000 years, from 1450 BCE to 450 BCE and then again for about 40 years from 60 AD to 100 AD.
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On the upside, the Bible does a good job of explaining the mindset of the Jewiah people and the situations they faced for many centuries. It's also a pretty good stab at explaining the world as they understood it 2000-plus years ago.

On the down--it's really silly to look at the book today and hold to its words anything resembling reality. Saying the Bible says this so it must be so instead of going with the observations of modern times is flawed thinking. That's not to say the book needs to be discarded. It just needs to be taken in context and dismissed where facts contradict its words.
 
calamity said:
On the upside, the Bible does a good job of explaining the mindset of the Jewiah people and the situations they faced for many centuries. It's also a pretty good stab at explaining the world as they understood it 2000-plus years ago.

On the down--it's really silly to look at the book today and hold to its words anything resembling reality. Saying the Bible says this so it must be so instead of going with the observations of modern times is flawed thinking. That's not to say the book needs to be discarded. It just needs to be taken in context and dismissed where facts contradict its words.
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I can certainly agree with all of that.

I myself caution against over-involvement in any organized religion.

On the other hand, everyone needs to look somewhere for rules of behavior.

My favorite prescription for this is a thorough reading of anyone's own personal favorite translation, followed by detailed study in Hebrew or Greek of the original texts on any given points. The translations only give a rough idea of what was actually said and written down.

Anyone who wants to split nits needs to dig really deep in the original Hebrew of the "Old Testament" and in the original Greek of the "New."

The final step is to formulate your own personal set of rules, then go your own way or form whatever affiliations you like.

Then each of us would become a better person for it.
 
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