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Abrahamic Religion = Fear

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Why are the religious so afraid? Why is everything wrapped in fear? I thought your "god" was loving, caring, forgiving, and understanding?

Is it sort of a symbiotic relationship between two irrational thought processes?

If you believe in your heart that you are doing the right thing, why do things other people do (that don't effect you) bother you so freakin much?

This is why I am more drawn to Taoism than western religions. Contentment and peace come from within. Forcing, influencing, or manipulating others isn't part of that formula.

FEAR isn't part of inner peace and contentment.

Why does it seem so many who believe in Abrahamic religions are also those who fearmonger the most, AND who also appear the most afraid?

Same-sex marriage is a perfect example of the irrational fear I'm talking about.
If somebody is going to be punished because two gay people get married, wouldn't those same people be punished because of thousands of other reasons that thousands of other people do every damn day?

What kind of asinine god would punish a straight, married, christian female in her 50's simply because a gay couple got married a 1000 miles away from her?

My only reasoning with why somebody would be so worried about what other people do, is that they are extremely insecure with what they themselves are doing.

Can somebody be a "good ___________" and not be fearful of what others believe/do?
 
Dragonfly said:
Why are the religious so afraid? Why is everything wrapped in fear? I thought your "god" was loving, caring, forgiving, and understanding?

Is it sort of a symbiotic relationship between two irrational thought processes?

If you believe in your heart that you are doing the right thing, why do things other people do (that don't effect you) bother you so freakin much?

This is why I am more drawn to Taoism than western religions. Contentment and peace come from within. Forcing, influencing, or manipulating others isn't part of that formula.

FEAR isn't part of inner peace and contentment.

Why does it seem so many who believe in Abrahamic religions are also those who fearmonger the most, AND who also appear the most afraid?

Same-sex marriage is a perfect example of the irrational fear I'm talking about.
If somebody is going to be punished because two gay people get married, wouldn't those same people be punished because of thousands of other reasons that thousands of other people do every damn day?

What kind of asinine god would punish a straight, married, christian female in her 50's simply because a gay couple got married a 1000 miles away from her?

My only reasoning with why somebody would be so worried about what other people do, is that they are extremely insecure with what they themselves are doing.

Can somebody be a "good ___________" and not be fearful of what others believe/do?
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You find the religious full of fear? Odd. I have met many that were optimistic and happy and relatively few that were fearful. Of course, the Pilgrims were driven, but that's why they were so successful.
 
joG said:
You find the religious full of fear? Odd. I have met many that were optimistic and happy and relatively few that were fearful.
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Ha....look around this forum. Fear is everywhere.
 
many people believe in god out of fear but some lucky ones just feel him .that is all.
 
It's about social engineering. There are repercussions to all things we do. If society becomes totally immoral it will break down, and the strength of our society is tied to our security, our willingness to fight for it, protect it for what we believe in. Even in a non-religious context that should make sense.
 
Modern liberalism=mischaracterize and disinform. :roll:
 
countryboy said:
Modern liberalism=mischaracterize and disinform. :roll:
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Modern conservatism = ignorance and hypocrisy :roll::roll:

(see how that works)

Meanwhile look at the SSM thing and the backlash. How is that not completely about fear?

The "traditional marriage" phrase and it's use is fear.

People ranting about how the "rights of the religious" are under attack is fear.
 
Dragonfly said:
Modern conservatism = ignorance and hypocrisy :roll::roll:

(see how that works)

Meanwhile look at the SSM thing and the backlash. How is that not completely about fear?

The "traditional marriage" phrase and it's use is fear.

People ranting about how the "rights of the religious" are under attack is fear.
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The irony is delicious. You must be very blissful.
 
Medusa said:
many people believe in god out of fear but some lucky ones just feel him .that is all.
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How do you know what you feel is 'God'??
 
Dragonfly said:
Why are the religious so afraid? Why is everything wrapped in fear? I thought your "god" was loving, caring, forgiving, and understanding?

Is it sort of a symbiotic relationship between two irrational thought processes?

If you believe in your heart that you are doing the right thing, why do things other people do (that don't effect you) bother you so freakin much?

This is why I am more drawn to Taoism than western religions. Contentment and peace come from within. Forcing, influencing, or manipulating others isn't part of that formula.

FEAR isn't part of inner peace and contentment.

Why does it seem so many who believe in Abrahamic religions are also those who fearmonger the most, AND who also appear the most afraid?

Same-sex marriage is a perfect example of the irrational fear I'm talking about.
If somebody is going to be punished because two gay people get married, wouldn't those same people be punished because of thousands of other reasons that thousands of other people do every damn day?

What kind of asinine god would punish a straight, married, christian female in her 50's simply because a gay couple got married a 1000 miles away from her?

My only reasoning with why somebody would be so worried about what other people do, is that they are extremely insecure with what they themselves are doing.

Can somebody be a "good ___________" and not be fearful of what others believe/do?
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When a religion is based on the premise that this world is a punishment, that we need to be 'saved', and that if we don't do certain things right we're destined for eternal torture, then of course there is fear involved. Fear and hatred. Lots of it.
 
Without a doubt, fear is one hell of a motivator. (no pun intended)

Some religions have capitalized on fear.
 
Dragonfly said:
Why are the religious so afraid? Why is everything wrapped in fear? I thought your "god" was loving, caring, forgiving, and understanding?
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I don't believe the religious are any more afraid than anyone else. Seeing as we live in a fear driven culture, that's still more afraid than anyone should be, but on par with the non-religious.

Dragonfly said:
Why does it seem so many who believe in Abrahamic religions are also those who fearmonger the most, AND who also appear the most afraid?
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I would blame your own perceptions for that.

The culture of fear in the US cuts across all religious and cultural backgrounds. You probably see it more in the religious due to your own biases.

The fact is, among the non-religious you still find all kinds of irrational fears. Fear of their children being in danger (despite the fact crime is at all time lows), fear of GMOs and pesticides and gluten and vaccination and things that aren't organic, and guns, and terrorism, and ebola, and bird flu, and swine flu, and killer bees, and acid rain, etc...

Dragonfly said:
Can somebody be a "good ___________" and not be fearful of what others believe/do?
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Sure. Countless are.

Unfortunately you live in a fear-driven society. Fear is everywhere, it pervades the culture and you will run into it constantly. Open your eyes more and you'll probably notice how it's not just the religious doing this, it's all groups.
 
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It only happens when I read certain posters here.
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They call them 'God-fearing Christians' for a reason.
 
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