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Which Came First - Chicken or Egg?

Which came first, chicken or egg?

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Dragonfly

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So, which came first - the chicken or the egg?

Why?
 
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The rooster...
 
The first egg was laid by a fish, or perhaps an aquatic invertebrate.

The first chicken egg was laid by a proto-chicken, which was the last mutation before true chickens.
 
Genesis

Thanks to Noah and God ...chickens got to live on.
 
Dragonfly said:
So, which came first - the chicken or the egg?

Why?
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I chose the chicken, since the egg is the reproductive process of the host, who lays it, so you can't reproduce something that wasn't previously in existence.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I chose the chicken, since the egg is the reproductive process of the host, who lays it, so you can't reproduce something that wasn't previously in existence.
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That is precisely why it is the egg. Whatever final mutation was required for the "pre-chicken" to become the "chicken" occurred first in an egg form, and then hatched and gave forth to a chicken who then had more eggs, etc.
 
cpwill said:
That is precisely why it is the egg. Whatever final mutation was required for the "pre-chicken" to become the "chicken" occurred first in an egg form, and then hatched and gave forth to a chicken who then had more eggs, etc.
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A reasonable hypothesis, although wrong :)
 
CanadaJohn said:
I chose the chicken, since the egg is the reproductive process of the host, who lays it, so you can't reproduce something that wasn't previously in existence.
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Dinosaurs laid eggs.
 
Dragonfly said:
So, which came first - the chicken or the egg?

Why?
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Sorry Dragonfly, I couldn't help myself and you purposely left it wide open. :mrgreen: :lamo *looks at poll*

As to your question...logically the egg came first. Evolution brought about the first chicken right? Before chickens were around what type of animals were? Egg bearing animals. The animals that, through evolution, turned into chickens did so via mutations which doesn't present itself until the embryo starts to develop inside an egg and matures while in the egg.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I chose the chicken, since the egg is the reproductive process of the host, who lays it, so you can't reproduce something that wasn't previously in existence.
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The egg existed in the linear transition to the chicken.

say a feathered-lizard creature was laying eggs 1 million years before the modern chicken...through variation that lizard bird became more bird....then more chicken-like ...then chicken. the egg was alone for the transition since before the lizard-bird.

If the question were what came first the chicken egg or the chicken...then your answer would be better utilized.
 
1750Texan said:
The egg existed in the linear transition to the chicken.

say a feathered-lizard creature was laying eggs 1 million years before the modern chicken...through variation that lizard bird became more bird....then more chicken-like ...then chicken. the egg was alone for the transition since before the lizard-bird.

If the question were what came first the chicken egg or the chicken...then your answer would be better utilized.
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Unless you believe that an egg evolved from a single cell organism, don't you have to accept that a "creature" of some sort existed before the first egg was laid?
 
dinosaur came first, yo
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm not getting your point :confused:
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dinosaur has sex with another dinosaur.
DNA replication causes mutation generating a new species - the chicken
chicken lays egg.

therefore, you could say that the egg came first, because the egg came from the dinosaur and then the chicken came next.
of course, you could say that that dinosaur didn't really lay a chicken egg, it laid a dinosaur egg, and out popped a chicken, which would mean chicken came first.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
Unless you believe that an egg evolved from a single cell organism, don't you have to accept that a "creature" of some sort existed before the first egg was laid?
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this is really a stupid argument anyway, the egg came before the chicken and it came out of a dinosaur
 
bg85 said:
dinosaur has sex with another dinosaur.
DNA replication causes mutation generating a new species - the chicken
chicken lays egg.

therefore, you could say that the egg came first, because the egg came from the dinosaur and then the chicken came next.
of course, you could say that that dinosaur didn't really lay a chicken egg, it laid a dinosaur egg, and out popped a chicken, which would mean chicken came first.
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My only point is that if we follow the evolutionary trail, the origin of the chicken, traced back, is not an egg but a creature of some sort that evolved to the point where it laid eggs and from their evolved further into what would be considered modern day chickens. Eggs that hatched into creatures didn't just appear one day, unless you believe in creation theory and then you could have Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and an egg that popped out a KFC ready chicken.

And to be clear, an egg is fertilized and formed within the chicken's body. Without the chicken's body, you have no fertilized egg.
 
CanadaJohn said:
A reasonable hypothesis, although wrong :)
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Sorry, but no. Given that the mutations that lead to evolution occur at sexual reproduction, logically whatever the final mutation was that creates "Chickens" would have shown up first in Egg Form. You are correct that something would have had to have lain that egg, but that something would not be a chicken, but rather, a Pre Chicken.


Look CJ, I really don't want to be a jerk about this, but the science is settled on this issue. If you are so desperate to be an Eggist Denier, well, that's you're freedom of speech, I suppose, but you need to understand that, for the good of the children, we're going to have to limit your ability to speak in public on this issue.
 
Dragonfly said:
So, which came first - the chicken or the egg?

Why?
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The egg, because the chicken is probably the result of 2 different fowls mating and it resulted in a chicken. I lean conservative as you know so I checked that.

But I couldn't resist checking the last choice too.
 
cpwill said:
Sorry, but no. Given that the mutations that lead to evolution occur at sexual reproduction, logically whatever the final mutation was that creates "Chickens" would have shown up first in Egg Form. You are correct that something would have had to have lain that egg, but that something would not be a chicken, but rather, a Pre Chicken.


Look CJ, I really don't want to be a jerk about this, but the science is settled on this issue. If you are so desperate to be an Eggist Denier, well, that's you're freedom of speech, I suppose, but you need to understand that, for the good of the children, we're going to have to limit your ability to speak in public on this issue.
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I have a feeling you're egging me on and I just want you to know I'm no chicken so I'll scramble to come up with a witty response.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I have a feeling you're egging me on and I just want you to know I'm no chicken so I'll scramble to come up with a witty response.
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What did the egg say to the boiling water? "I don't think I can get hard -- I just got laid this morning!"
 
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