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LOL "Big Bang"[W:19,438]

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chad1389 said:
So your argument is that God lied about Himself. Wouldn't that make Him real though? I mean, I believed already, but wow. Thanks for enlightening yourself.
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The argument is that: There is no actual empirical evidence to support the belief for the existence of "God," thereby there is no need to believe it.
 
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chad1389 said:
You didn't answer the question. A college degree is a piece of paper. A college degree grants someone authority. Surely you can't deny that those with college degrees have led this country into wars. Surely you can't deny that a college degree grants someone the ability to find a job with a higher wage. Surely a college degree opens doors for you that would have otherwise remained closed. And yet it is still just a piece of paper. Do you deny this fact? Of course if you do deny it, you are stating that it wields no power, thus is a useless thing to strive for, such as it is with spiritual learning, but we both know that would be a stupid statement. If you do agree however, then you freely admit that this piece of paper wields power, even though nowhere on it does it specifically say you now have any power. So the real question then becomes, which piece of paper wields the most authority over people? The one that can get someone elected president who can lead this country into a war, or the one that teaches war is wrong? Of course the president doesn't have to lead in to any war, nor does anybody have to use the Bible as a means to wield power. Remember though, the Bible won't get you elected president. So which wields more power?
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Certainly the paper does not.
 
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humbolt said:
I was working on a lengthy response, but I'm canning that. As I pointed out earlier, the distinction of information as a separate entity from both matter and energy is something evolution doesn't, and couldn't, address. That realization separates the conduit from the content.

Now, for laughs, here is the reason for the mention of **** roaches. They are eminently an evolutionary survivor. However, they don't apprehend the beauty of the Sistine Chapel ceiling nor the spectacular view of the Grand Canyon as anything at all but a place to exist. Their world is small and singularly focused on reproduction. Yes, they are well positioned to survive more extremes as they exist than humans are. We cannot survive for a week without a head and still reproduce. If I believe evolution as a complete formulation, we should abandon the world to **** roaches.

I dunno. Given the condition of the world just now, maybe we already have.

Did ya look at them there trees?
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We would, but **** roaches should evolve to a state where they can withstand feet pressure first.
 
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chad1389 said:
So your argument is that God lied about Himself. Wouldn't that make Him real though? I mean, I believed already, but wow. Thanks for enlightening yourself.
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Are you saying you've talked to god directly and he made claims about himself? As far as I can tell the only connection we have to "god" are thousands of different religions created by men claiming they all talked to god but can't substantiate it.

Pointing out that the bible is full of lies isn't calling god a liar, it's calling the writers of the bible liars.
 
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chad1389 said:
Except that they're both are pieces of paper that make you believe you're something important. Or is that just not a comparison one could use because it doesn't fit your viewpoint?
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"Your opinion is only as important and as believable as the actual empirical evidence that supports them"

There, you can now print that up and it will serve you as a "paper" with real authority since you seem to like it as much.
 
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Quag said:
No anyone can just go and buy a bible for a college degree you have to achieve the necessary credits. They are not equivalent.
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You can get a degree from a bible college if you can walk and chew gum at the same time.
 
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DDD said:
We would, but **** roaches should evolve to a state where they can withstand feet pressure first.
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In spite of their evolution, I think they'll remain **** roaches, and susceptible to direct pressure. We're getting heavier, too, so....
 
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humbolt said:
In spite of their evolution, I think they'll remain **** roaches, and susceptible to direct pressure. We're getting heavier, too, so....
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They will remain cockroaches.
 
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zyzygy said:
They will remain cockroaches.
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Afraid so. Do you think they are self-aware? If they are, I wonder if they wake up and determine that they're going to be the best cockroach ever.
 
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humbolt said:
In spite of their evolution, I think they'll remain **** roaches, and susceptible to direct pressure. We're getting heavier, too, so....
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... in the meantime we rule the earth cause we evolved greater more effective brains.
 
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DDD said:
... in the meantime we rule the earth cause we evolved greater more effective brains.
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Only until the asteroid hits. Then we'll be sterilized fertilizer. Only Louis Farrkhan and Glenn Beck will survive.
 
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humbolt said:
Only until the asteroid hits. Then we'll be sterilized fertilizer. Only Louis Farrkhan and Glenn Beck will survive.
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I expect a funny story about them two? Care to share a link :)

Seriously though, if we do not evolve and adapt to the environment that not only we should take into consideration various humanity depriving threats, but how to avoid such threats in the first place, then we may be allowing **** roaches to have the throne.
 
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humbolt said:
Afraid so. Do you think they are self-aware? If they are, I wonder if they wake up and determine that they're going to be the best cockroach ever.
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One thing they will never be is **** roaches.
 
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DDD said:
I expect a funny story about them two? Care to share a link :)
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No specific story in mind - just their histories is enough.

Seriously though, if we do not evolve and adapt to the environment that not only we should take into consideration various humanity depriving threats, but how to avoid such threats in the first place, then we may be allowing **** roaches to have the throne.
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I agree. Human life here is more fragile than many seem to think. We exist within a very narrow range of prevalent conditions around us.
 
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ocean515 said:
Please get off your pseudo intellectual high horse. I'm not interested.

I've only posited an interesting philosophical idea to which it appears the simple minded are having a difficult time dealing with.

Constraining creative thought is a very dangerous thing. It leads to limited thinking, and reliance on others to solve basic problems. Beware of such limiting efforts.

Man turned trees into flying machines, and spider webs into wings. I doubt your approach to thinking would have gone much beyond a campfire and a roof over your head.

Imagination advances man. You should try it.
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Imagination can be fruitful in a chain of discovery, imagination can also be detrimental to any chain of discovery. Imagination can manifest a deep rooted confirmation bias that bars a individual (or groups or even generations) to believe in that which is not real, or a false perception of the true nature of existence.

Many scientists wanted the Earth to be the center of the universe. They were unable to imagine anything other than the Earth as being the center of everything. So devised complicated models that confirmed their bias. Imagination is meaningless if it doesnt ever go beyond imaginations. Imagining all kinds of scenarios that support a god theory puts a god at the center of the universe. Ok so great people imagined a god but is their any real truth in it? Unless man can define and measure a god in detail it will remain a meaningless imagination that is designed to confirm a bias.

If all things are possible in a infinite universe, then perhaps the universe isnt infinite? Perhaps the probabilities of what can be real are finite even though space and time can possibly be infinite? There is no real way for humans to know the answers to either question, if we must quantify infinity. But we are quantifying the probabilities of what is possible in the known universe. If the god theory is to stand up to probabilities it must transverse from imaginations to calculations and physical evidence. If not then gods will remain to be stories. Because as of right now all gods reside in the stories told by humans. Our only perceptions of gods originate from the human mind. There is nothing outside of the human mind that indicates a need for a god. The only people that do see a need for a god also need to have that god be the center of their universe; confirmation bias.
 
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humbolt said:
Two different spellings, with a big difference.
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It's cockroach in every dictionary that I own. Google corrects it to cockroach. Doesn't matter, carry on.
 
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zyzygy said:
It's cockroach in every dictionary that I own. Google corrects it to cockroach. Doesn't matter, carry on.
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The dictionary in this computer has it as two words for some reason. I've never seen that before, but I let it correct that anyway to keep it from yelling at me.
 
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humbolt said:
The dictionary in this computer has it as two words for some reason. I've never seen that before, but I let it correct that anyway to keep it from yelling at me.
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Fair enough. The machines are taking over.
 
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