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Why the Judeo-Christian God is, GOD

tosca1 said:
This is a pretty poor argument....it boils down to saying, "it ain't so."

So, I'll just ignore everyone who hasn't anything new to say....but just keep repeating the same old ignorant mantra.....

adios for now.
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hahah, irony. Your argument is "because!". My argument is, prove it. You want to make a point, cool, prove it. That's where you fall down, you can't demonstrate point 1. All you can say is "Bible says it" and run away. Circular logic will not win a debate.

Of course you will ignore it, because you can't deal with it. That's how people with your line of argument operate. Hit-and-run with no substance. Thanks for continuing to prove my point.
 
tosca1 said:
Thanks for clarifying that. I found it unbelievable that atheist wouldn't be allowed there...
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Physically, but not in spirit. Repost here so debate can happen.
 
Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

Atheists aren't allowed in the religion forum. Repost it here so a debate can happen.


RogueWarrior said:
We are allowed there but we can't say: Prove it!
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Ikari....just shows, you've got a problem getting your facts straight.


Anyway, I didn't ask you to debate. It's already been debated to smithereens over there.

I wanted you to read about the arguments for the Bible! Just so you wont be nagging me with the same old tired lines.



My goodness...I can't stop from laughing!
 
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tosca1 said:
Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

Atheists aren't allowed in the religion forum. Repost it here so a debate can happen.




Ikari....just shows you've got a problem getting your facts straight.
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Blah blah blah, post it here so debate can happen. Why all the dance and deflection?
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tosca1 said:
Ikari....just shows, you've got a problem getting your facts straight.


Anyway, I didn't ask you to debate. It's already been debated to smithereens over there.

I wanted you to read about the arguments for the Bible! Just so you wont be nagging me about the same old tired lines.

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My goodness...I can't stop from laughing!
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Debate between people in what they already believe to be true? That isn't debate, that is slapping each other on the ass for scoring a touchdown when the other team ain't even playing.

 
RogueWarrior said:
Debate between people in what they already believe to be true? That isn't debate, that is slapping each other on the ass for scoring a touchdown when the other team ain't even playing.
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Not only that, still hasn't posted it up here where it can be debated. One has to wonder if a particular ideological side is afraid of posting in areas where their "proof" can be questioned.
 
tosca1 said:
God, the Creator of all things...... is the Judeo-Christian God.
That's the claim of Christians and Jews. Understandably, those who don't believe would ask, why do you think it's the Judeo-Christian God?

My response is:

No other god qualifies.
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tosca1 said:
I'm asking: what other gods qualify?

Let's stop beating around the bush, shall we?
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Problem is you rather foolishly allowed for other systems of belief to come into this argument. You would have gotten much further putting this in the religious area of the forums where systems of belief do not face the same level of scrutiny and criticism that they would in the philosophical area of the forums.

Therefor, your first question sets up a philosophical fallacy. Because you believe something to be fact based on a system of belief, nothing else can qualify within your standards of what you believe. We have a system of belief that says the "Judeo-Christian God is the the Creator of all things." But that is not the only system of belief out there. You then saying "No other god qualifies" is an answer but only within the confines of your faith.

Your problem is humanity over our history has come up with many Gods (even back into the polytheistic religion dominant times) where one or more Gods created all things for all sorts of reasons. The only difference is you believing that your system of belief is right and all others are wrong, so only within your system of belief does no other god qualify. You believing you are right does not make it so.

The whole thing ends up being an a schoolyard level argument about who's God really is the all creator. Which is kin to who's imaginary friend is better. And in your context one could answer that Prometheus created man, Athena helped, and other Gods ended up assigned to make other creations that we see... and they would be just as right as you are within the confines of their belief. Not that you would accept it, but your biggest mistake was putting this in the philosophical area of the forums where you do not get to say you are right just because you believe you are.
 
Ikari said:
Yup, that the J-C god is the right god. Unfortunately the arguement revolves around "The Bible says so", and nothing beyond that.
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Wow, never heard that argument before.
 
LZRD WZRD said:
Are you trying to say that the bible is evidence of the claims that it itself makes? Because that obviously is nonsense.

If that's not what you're saying, please elaborate.
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Yes, that would be similar to myself writing a doctoral dissertation, and citing myself as supporting data.
 
Logicman said:
Sorry, your views don't count with me.
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well ok but since none of those were in the post you quoted what's the relevance?

common sense and logic don't seem to count with you either and those were acutely in my post you could at least give them a shout out
 
tosca1 said:
Sorry blarg....your style of posting without any punctuation just makes me dizzy....so I'm forced to ignore them.



Btw....no point bringing specific or particular details from that other thread (Word of God) in this thread. If you want to discuss specific/particular details, bring them up in that RELIGION topic.

When I bring up the Bible in this thread as a support for my argument - I'm talking about everything about the Bible.
I only pointed out the science factor because I was replying to a statement that talked about science.
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What you have failed to show is the following.

The God actually exists.
That the bible is either inspired or written by God.
That there is only 1 God.
What is actually meant when you use the term 'God'.
 
The Judeo-Christian God is the true god because he is the true god. Convincing, and no evidence needed. :mrgreen:
 
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