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100% is not enough: Georgism to its logical conclusion

instagramsci said:
So youre a socdem
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No, because I don't think it would work now, my point is I have certain principles, and I go from there, and judge different situations differently. I'm not gonna put a specific label on myself and then have to defend Things I don't necessarily believe in.

We're not talking about the Soviet Union we're talking about pacifism
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You wern't "talking" about pacifism, just slandering my position calling it "rediculous" no argument was made, so there's really nothing to talk about.
 
RGacky3 said:
No, because I don't think it would work now, my point is I have certain principles, and I go from there, and judge different situations differently. I'm not gonna put a specific label on myself and then have to defend Things I don't necessarily believe in.
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Fair enough


RGacky3 said:
You wern't "talking" about pacifism, just slandering my position calling it "rediculous" no argument was made, so there's really nothing to talk about.
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I just think taking absolute positions on war is misguided
 
I don't know how you get that sense. If you look through this thread, for example at the top of this very page, you'll see that, despite the obvious fact that life in a community that's under siege is more difficult than life in a similarly-developed community that's not under siege,
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What siege??? The capitalists sold the socialists the ropes, so to speak.

I've been willing to accept my opponent's measures of success even though they don't take that into account. And lo, Cuba improved relative to the rest of the hemisphere, particularly before the market-oriented reforms.
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Cuba was always a wealthy country and advanced when compared to fellow countries in the carribean and central America.



Yes, it can, because socialism in general would be global socialism, and thus no hostile foreign reaction.
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This assumes a situation where there is an simultaneous world wide socialist revolt-- and that it is 100% successful. It is absurd to expect such an event.

In the meantime, each socialist revolution mitigates the effects of that reaction by increasing the size of the socialist trade and mutual defense bloc.
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OK-- but this suggests that these socialist communities will need to co-exist with capitalist communities for an undetermined period of time. Which goes back to my suggestion that their inability to prosper in competition with capitalist communities indicates a weakness of socialism which should not be dismissed.

And while that bloc may be doomed to defeat as long as there is interference,
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Well, North Korea walls itself off from the capitalist world. Should this be the model of socialist communities? Or should they be prepared to engage in trade, diplomatic relations ect ect with capitalist communities?
 
BobbyO said:
What siege??? The capitalists sold the socialists the ropes, so to speak.
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I don't follow. By siege, I refer to the assassination attempts, the embargo, the blockade, the invasion, the terrorism, etc.

BobbyO said:
Cuba was always a wealthy country and advanced when compared to fellow countries in the carribean and central America.
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Again, I showed that Cuba has improved on its pre-revolutionary rankings, since the revolution. Isn't going from good to better as significant as going from bad to good?
 
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