How far would you go to accommodate an endangered human community?

[paddymcdougall]

I brought this up as part of another thread, but thought it deserved its own thread.

If a section of the USA became unlivable - for example, rising sea waters wipe out Florida or the central valley of California becomes uninhabitable due to drought - what measures would you be willing to support to relocate the people in that area?

If the USA became unlivable for some reason (environmental, volcanos erupting - if Yellowstone goes, a lot of the US becomes uninhabitable, whatever) - would people support us taking over another country or another continent for our people to live in? By force, if we have to?

If Indonesia (as an example) became unlivable due to rising sea leavels, let's say - would we support moving all the residents of Indonesia into one or more of our states - Utah, Colorado, Arizona, California all have lots of room?

 

[Slartibartfast]

not very far. I don't see preservation of cultures as important (unless there is a clear material advantage to that outlook like it makes people more productive, better able to handle money, or able to deal with life issues, etc), but I am a highly individualistic person in that regard.

In terms of changing the topology of the earth in some fundamental way due to environmental damage, yes that is a huge concern of mine. But that has less to do with communities and more to do with keeping earth suitable until we can become a true space faring race and thus severely reduce our chances of becoming extinct because of some large catastrophe. Once we are free from earth, environmental concerns become far less important. That wont happen for a long time I think though

 

[joG]

I brought this up as part of another thread, but thought it deserved its own thread.

If a section of the USA became unlivable - for example, rising sea waters wipe out Florida or the central valley of California becomes uninhabitable due to drought - what measures would you be willing to support to relocate the people in that area?

If the USA became unlivable for some reason (environmental, volcanos erupting - if Yellowstone goes, a lot of the US becomes uninhabitable, whatever) - would people support us taking over another country or another continent for our people to live in? By force, if we have to?

If Indonesia (as an example) became unlivable due to rising sea leavels, let's say - would we support moving all the residents of Indonesia into one or more of our states - Utah, Colorado, Arizona, California all have lots of room?

If US citizens want to move, they may move. If they need help, they may be helped within reason for some time. The same is true for Indonesians within the law governing immigration and international help for displaced persons.

 

[Paleocon]

I brought this up as part of another thread, but thought it deserved its own thread.

If a section of the USA became unlivable - for example, rising sea waters wipe out Florida or the central valley of California becomes uninhabitable due to drought - what measures would you be willing to support to relocate the people in that area?

If the USA became unlivable for some reason (environmental, volcanos erupting - if Yellowstone goes, a lot of the US becomes uninhabitable, whatever) - would people support us taking over another country or another continent for our people to live in? By force, if we have to?

If Indonesia (as an example) became unlivable due to rising sea leavels, let's say - would we support moving all the residents of Indonesia into one or more of our states - Utah, Colorado, Arizona, California all have lots of room?

The focus in such a situation should be saving people, not cultures or nations.

 

[rhinefire]

I brought this up as part of another thread, but thought it deserved its own thread.

If a section of the USA became unlivable - for example, rising sea waters wipe out Florida or the central valley of California becomes uninhabitable due to drought - what measures would you be willing to support to relocate the people in that area?

If the USA became unlivable for some reason (environmental, volcanos erupting - if Yellowstone goes, a lot of the US becomes uninhabitable, whatever) - would people support us taking over another country or another continent for our people to live in? By force, if we have to?

If Indonesia (as an example) became unlivable due to rising sea leavels, let's say - would we support moving all the residents of Indonesia into one or more of our states - Utah, Colorado, Arizona, California all have lots of room?

First Question-we may be forced to answer this due to potential earthquake threats in California and the coat of Africa.
Second Question-Yellowstone is believed to be the potentially most disastrous eruption in history should it happen.
Third Question- I don't believe we would on a scale to impact, it would have to be a world wide issue. Recall the WWI and II refugees.

 

[paddymcdougall]

The focus in such a situation should be saving people, not cultures or nations.

How do you separate people from their culture?

I agree the focus is on saving people; and if we put them in several of our states, we wouldn't set up a separate nation for them; however, I assume they would maintain their religion, their food habits, their art, etc.

 

[paddymcdougall]

First Question-we may be forced to answer this due to potential earthquake threats in California and the coat of Africa.
Second Question-Yellowstone is believed to be the potentially most disastrous eruption in history should it happen.
Third Question- I don't believe we would on a scale to impact, it would have to be a world wide issue. Recall the WWI and II refugees.

Re third question - I worry about this because we (and the rest of the world) haven't been good with refugees in the past. Would we allow (effectively) genocide to happen because we don't want to take the refugees? Or would we pick a random country and shoehorn them in there so we didn't have to deal with them?

Re q1- I do think with rising sea levels and changes in weather we'll be relocating some group within the US at some point. Also - read "The Rift" which imagined if the New Madrid fault had another 8+ earthquake in the modern world- there would be such mass destruction that we might need to relocate people from those states as well.

I fear (based on limited experience with Hurricane Katrina) that we would not be very good at it...

 

[Paleocon]

How do you separate people from their culture?

I agree the focus is on saving people; and if we put them in several of our states, we wouldn't set up a separate nation for them; however, I assume they would maintain their religion, their food habits, their art, etc.

But that wouldn't be the purpose, it would be a side effect.