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Why is it so essential for Christian to enforced 'God Loves You' with non-Christians?

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Logicman said:
So it's ok for you to blather out a false narrative that God inflicts a certain child with cancer?
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I was pointing out the absurdity of believing that imaginary beings like satan and god could inflict or cure cancer, but that went straight over your head, as usual.
 
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zyzygy said:
I was pointing out the absurdity of believing that imaginary beings like satan and god could inflict or cure cancer, but that went straight over your head, as usual.
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You seem to believe God inflicts children with cancer. You spit that out like you knew what you were talking about.
 
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tosca1 said:
So many questions can also be asked. Why should those love be enough?

How many spouses' love turned out to be lip service? What happens when parents die?

It's one thing for someone to say he/she loves you......it's quite another to actually prove it.

How many had experienced love so deep that somebody gave their life for you? Parents included?

Can one - especially this days - really say that your parents will give the ultimate sacrifice for you?


What's so surprising about being happy in knowing your Creator loves you?
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I don't follow the logic, here. God certainly won't give the ultimate sacrifice for you because he's not fallible like a human and subject to things such as death.

So there's nothing to actually prove - a divine being that lives perpetually 'loves' you - and that means more than anything else?
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
I don't follow the logic, here. God certainly won't give the ultimate sacrifice for you because he's not fallible like a human and subject to things such as death.
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For all the hurt that humanity had inflicted on God, He gave His only begotten son, Jesus Christ - who died for us on the cross. Since He was human, He felt every pain that any normal human being would feel.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
So there's nothing to actually prove - a divine being that lives perpetually 'loves' you - and that means more than anything else?
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Well, yeah!

He's more than just a divine being. He is the Creator.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Or even amongst themselves - to each other.

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I was fussing with some book publishing tonight and noticed a book on the new release list in which the author states in the preface: "...I want to encourage you that no matter what seemly impossible negative circumstances or situations that you may find yourself in presently (or in the future) GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY. HE is able to restore you back to HIS original purpose and plan for your life...."

And I guess because i was raised in a religious family I never thought about it before. But why is it so essential to almost every religious person I know to enforce this belief?

How essential is it for people to feel loved by God in this way? Is this sense of being loved by a greater being the reason why people are drawn to religion - seeking out acceptance and love, especially if life doesn't seem to give it to you.
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Why are you assuming what it means? Why did you even ask the question if you already feel you know the answer?

The answer is simple, it is an integral part of Christianity. To spread the good news. Does that bother you? Is it really so terrible?
 
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countryboy said:
Why are you assuming what it means? Why did you even ask the question if you already feel you know the answer?

The answer is simple, it is an integral part of Christianity. To spread the good news. Does that bother you? Is it really so terrible?
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Well it just going hand in hand with religion is how i used to view it - but now I see there's something more to it than 'well it's just what Christians do'.
 
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CrabCake said:
I think it's a backlash against the kind of fire and brimstone theology that was popular in the 80s. Christianity seems to go through cycles, like a pendelum, constantly swinging towards focusing on either the mercy side of God's personality or the justice side. The 60s and 70s brought a focus on love, the 80s and 90s brought us back to 'fire and brimstone', and now we are back on the love side for a season.

So, to answer your question, it's not essential, it's seasonal.
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Ignorance is not your friend. There have always been different denominations.

And yes, spreading the good news is essential to all Bible believing Christians.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Love as a human - human to human and even human to animal - makes sense. For one, there's a tangible component.

But God is a concept, not a person.

When I was a kid I remember always singing "Jesus Loves Me..." but now I don't see why that's essential for people to believe in.
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Christians believe God is a person, not a concept.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Or even amongst themselves - to each other.

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I was fussing with some book publishing tonight and noticed a book on the new release list in which the author states in the preface: "...I want to encourage you that no matter what seemly impossible negative circumstances or situations that you may find yourself in presently (or in the future) GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY. HE is able to restore you back to HIS original purpose and plan for your life...."

And I guess because i was raised in a religious family I never thought about it before. But why is it so essential to almost every religious person I know to enforce this belief?

How essential is it for people to feel loved by God in this way? Is this sense of being loved by a greater being the reason why people are drawn to religion - seeking out acceptance and love, especially if life doesn't seem to give it to you.
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I don't have that problem, I am told how I am an abomination, evil, degenerate, and I'm going to burn for all eternity.

Trade you. I might be a nice change of pace.
 
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countryboy said:
And yes, spreading the good news is essential to all Bible believing Christians.
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Yes. That's what we've been commissioned by Jesus. It is a Christian duty.
 
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tosca1 said:
Yes. That's what we've been commissioned by Jesus. It is a Christian duty.
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Yes it is. Unfortunately some Christians forget that we are to perform that duty with gentleness and respect. I am guilty of that sometimes when defending the faith.
 
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countryboy said:
Christians believe God is a person, not a concept.
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God is certainly not a person. At least, not how I was taught.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
God is certainly not a person. At least, not how I was taught.
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"Our Father" is not a person?
 
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There is a lot of hopelessness in this world. I personally believe in showing God's love through action and words versus just saying "God loves you." But many do it to remind people that they are loved by a God who sacrificed and died for their sins in order to be forgiven. Many feel like God is mean or that he hates us but that's not the case. I don't like the "God loves you" meme being pushed all the time and I think actions speak louder than words, but it is an integral part of Christianity and for those who know God we know that God is love and it's something the world not only needs to know, but to also acknowledge and feel.
 
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digsbe said:
There is a lot of hopelessness in this world. I personally believe in showing God's love through action and words versus just saying "God loves you." But many do it to remind people that they are loved by a God who sacrificed and died for their sins in order to be forgiven. Many feel like God is mean or that he hates us but that's not the case. I don't like the "God loves you" meme being pushed all the time and I think actions speak louder than words, but it is an integral part of Christianity and for those who know God we know that God is love and it's something the world not only needs to know, but to also acknowledge and feel.
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And you're right. Christian actions will reflect the loving God.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
God is certainly not a person. At least, not how I was taught.
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What denomination were you brought up with?

The Bible certainly teaches that God is a person. Albeit, an omnipotent one.
 
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countryboy said:
What denomination were you brought up with?

The Bible certainly teaches that God is a person. Albeit, an omnipotent one.
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God is a god.

It's strange that some people believed he was a person - as in an actual person. Christ was a person on earth, not God.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
God is a god.

It's strange that some people believed he was a person - as in an actual person. Christ was a person on earth, not God.
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Yes, you are correct, God is God. But, He is also a person. Of course, He is not a person like we are people, but He did condescend to cloak Himself in human flesh, and could again at any time if He wished.

Most people who call themselves Christian, believe that Jesus is fully God, and fully man.
 
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countryboy said:
Ignorance is not your friend. There have always been different denominations.

And yes, spreading the good news is essential to all Bible believing Christians.
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What do denominations have to do with anything I said?

What does spreading the good news have to do with anything that's being discussed here?
 
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CrabCake said:
What do denominations have to do with anything I said?

What does spreading the good news have to do with anything that's being discussed here?
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If you have to ask, I probably can't help you.
 
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joG said:
I don't know about the Greater Being loves you thing. I watch atheists acting just like Christian preachers all the time.
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How so? I have had many christians approach my children with their messages about god or jesus. Could you imagine the stink if I or any other atheist went around telling other people's children that there was no god and actively pursued this agressively say like a missionary.
 
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tosca1 said:
For all the hurt that humanity had inflicted on God, He gave His only begotten son, Jesus Christ - who died for us on the cross. Since He was human, He felt every pain that any normal human being would feel.
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We 'hurt' God? What physically or did we just piss Her off a bit? Seriously? Because She can't take a little crap, She sends down something that is her Son and not Her but, actually it is Her even though it is human as well but, clearly divine, to get nailed onto a piece of board so that She can forgive US?

All you need to know about Jesus is that he was essentially set up as a 'blood sacrifice' to continue the tradition of ritual blood sacrifice prevalent in many religions. Until people with a better moral compass came along and say, 'this is not right' they continue with it (Halal, Kosher, Jesus).
 
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Tuatara said:
How so? I have had many christians approach my children with their messages about god or jesus. Could you imagine the stink if I or any other atheist went around telling other people's children that there was no god and actively pursued this agressively say like a missionary.
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Why not? We had people visit the house, when we were kids that would discuss Judaism, Atheism, Catholism, Budisim and their ethics or ethical implications all the time. My parents thought their friends could tell us anything they wanted.
 
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