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Why is it so essential for Christian to enforced 'God Loves You' with non-Christians?

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LOL, so you get what you want and instead of being gracious, you mock me. Very nice, but not surprising.

To answer your're question, I'm willing to re-evaluate my statement's, but I'm on my way out.

As I said, I'll be back.
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tosca1 said:
Just kidding.....
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So instead of saying your sorry, you resort to denial. Not very in line with your beliefs.
 
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csbrown28 said:
So instead of saying your sorry, you resort to denial. Not very in line with your beliefs.
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Have you ever met a real christian? I haven't.
 
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csbrown28 said:
So instead of saying your sorry, you resort to denial. Not very in line with your beliefs.
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Saying, "just kidding" was meant to "soften the blow." I was REBUKING you. And I've got very good reasons to. I've got nothing to say sorry for.

Here, let's re-post why I rebuked you:



Originally Posted by csbrown28

Agreed.

Ill be back.


tosca1 said:



So, you blindly blasted without understanding why I responded the way I did.

And you say you'll back.....why don't I think that sounds too promising? :lol:

I hope we don't get into this same situation when you do come back.
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You did a continuous arguing, and readily admitted that you have not even read why I responded the way I did.

You even asked for a time out since you don't even know what you're arguing about! :mrgreen:

Looks like you backtracked and found out you were arguing for nothing since you've taken my statements out of context.

You should instead apologise to me for wasting my time. :roll: And I don't think I'd want to engage your attempt at dishonesty. And looks like you've taken the downhill path towards name-calling, and real insults now.
So I guess it's au revoir ....
 
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Re: Why is it so essential for Christian to enforced 'God Loves You' with non-Christi

tosca1 said:
Saying, "just kidding" was meant to "soften the blow." I've got nothing to say sorry for. Here, let's re-post that:
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A blow made with a feather duster.
 
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zyzygy said:
A blow made with a feather duster.
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Yeah. A feather. Right. :lol:

That's why I said "to soften" the blow.




Oh boy....I spilled my coffee laughing.....ha-ha-ha....your fault....ha-ha-ha....this is hilarious....
 
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tosca1 said:
Yeah. A feather. Right. :lol:

That's why I said "to soften" the blow.




Oh boy....I spilled my coffee laughing.....ha-ha-ha....your fault....ha-ha-ha....this is hilarious....
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You didn't understand. I will put it near. Your blow was struck with a feather duster, you did not use one to soften the blow. The blow was not hard. Do you get it now?
 
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zyzygy said:
You didn't understand. I will put it near. Your blow was struck with a feather duster, you did not use one to soften the blow. The blow was not hard. Do you get it now?
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:roll:

Which do you think was the "feather duster" in my post? Be specific.
 
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tosca1 said:
:roll:

Which do you think was the "feather duster" in my post? Be specific.
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Why do you think that you dealt a blow? I didn't notice anybody reeling from your devastating sally.
 
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joG said:
Why not? We had people visit the house, when we were kids that would discuss Judaism, Atheism, Catholism, Budisim and their ethics or ethical implications all the time. My parents thought their friends could tell us anything they wanted.
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Do you actually believe the rest of the population would have no problem with that, keep in mind your discussions were with people your parents knew and trusted and not random strangers. I'm also willing to bet you were older kids, high school age.
 
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Tuatara said:
Do you actually believe the rest of the population would have no problem with that, keep in mind your discussions were with people your parents knew and trusted and not random strangers. I'm also willing to bet you were older kids, high school age.
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Why would the rest of the population have a problem?
 
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tosca1 said:
Oh, that's been happening for quite a while now.
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and you have evidence of this?

Why should we have to listen to atheists and secularists spew their own preachings against religion and God?
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We live in a society that has free speech. You don't have to listen to us but you can't prevent us from our rights of free speech.

Look at the books written to malign religion - especially Christianity.
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Yes and there are a billion more books that maign atheism. Are you getting bent out of shape because atheists hold maybe 1% of the market on books referring to religion.
They even try to indoctrinate our children to that mentality, to accept the secular values.....
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How so? Did you actually see an atheist approach a child and try and convert them?
 
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csbrown28 said:
Assuming you've read some of my many opinions on religion and god, would it surprise you to know that I have never told my children (they are 10 and 11) that god does not exist?
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I live right beside a bible camp and most of the kids at our local school are heavy christians and have even approached our children with their dogma in tow. I simply have told my children that some people believe in a god or gods and some people don't.
 
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zyzygy said:
Why would the rest of the population have a problem?
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Most christians I know want to keep that protective bubble around them. They are not open to other ideas. They just don't simply believe in their god, most will atest he is real. If an atheist came around and tried to convert their children the christian population would lose it. Look at the way some of the US feels about atheists in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdnWwlZCsSw
 
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Tuatara said:
Do you actually believe the rest of the population would have no problem with that, keep in mind your discussions were with people your parents knew and trusted and not random strangers. I'm also willing to bet you were older kids, high school age.
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Yes, the visitors were friends or friends of friends of my parents. Of course, having been alerted to the subject my brother and I would discuss such things with people outside the house. It is hard to say, when it started.
 
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tosca1 said:
Saying, "just kidding" was meant to "soften the blow." I was REBUKING you. And I've got very good reasons to. I've got nothing to say sorry for.

Here, let's re-post why I rebuked you:



You did a continuous arguing, and readily admitted that you have not even read why I responded the way I did.

You even asked for a time out since you don't even know what you're arguing about! :mrgreen:

Looks like you backtracked and found out you were arguing for nothing since you've taken my statements out of context.

You should instead apologise to me for wasting my time. :roll: And I don't think I'd want to engage your attempt at dishonesty. And looks like you've taken the downhill path towards name-calling, and real insults now.
So I guess it's au revoir ....
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Holy moly, I cannot believe that csb28 had the temerity to actually go and do something else when all your cyberdemands had not been met!

Do you even comprehend how much like a 'brat' that post reads?

This is the Internet my dear, in my experience it is generally considered bad form to push for responses in a time frame because we all have lives outside here. It must have really grated with you that you couldn't let off that steam because csb28 had to shoot for a while but, don't worry, Dawkins loves you.
 
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Tuatara said:
Most christians I know want to keep that protective bubble around them. They are not open to other ideas. They just don't simply believe in their god, most will atest he is real. If an atheist came around and tried to convert their children the christian population would lose it. Look at the way some of the US feels about atheists in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdnWwlZCsSw
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Am I glad that I live in Europe!
 
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Tuatara said:
Most christians I know want to keep that protective bubble around them. They are not open to other ideas. They just don't simply believe in their god, most will atest he is real. If an atheist came around and tried to convert their children the christian population would lose it. Look at the way some of the US feels about atheists in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdnWwlZCsSw
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You mean parents want to protect their children? For shame!
 
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phattonez said:
You mean parents want to protect their children? For shame!
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So I guess that means you have a problem with missionaries too.
 
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Tuatara said:
So I guess that means you have a problem with missionaries too.
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If I perceive them as a threat then yes, I would shut them out as I commonly do with Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Or even amongst themselves - to each other.

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I was fussing with some book publishing tonight and noticed a book on the new release list in which the author states in the preface: "...I want to encourage you that no matter what seemly impossible negative circumstances or situations that you may find yourself in presently (or in the future) GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY. HE is able to restore you back to HIS original purpose and plan for your life...."

And I guess because i was raised in a religious family I never thought about it before. But why is it so essential to almost every religious person I know to enforce this belief?

How essential is it for people to feel loved by God in this way? Is this sense of being loved by a greater being the reason why people are drawn to religion - seeking out acceptance and love, especially if life doesn't seem to give it to you.
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I think that you are making a mountain out of a molehill. I have never been a Christian but I do a lot of volunteer work with them and have never heard this-they all keep their religious beliefs to themselves. I think that people join churches in the same way they join political parties or social groups and that is they are seeking a sense of belonging and social connection.
And if some Christian talks about how god loves you I suspect that is better than being called a racist, moron, stupid, or any of the other names that members of other groups say to non-members.
 
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I am guessing that they are trying to actively fight negative perceptions of Christianity and Christians... :shrug:



Aunt Spiker said:
Or even amongst themselves - to each other.

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I was fussing with some book publishing tonight and noticed a book on the new release list in which the author states in the preface: "...I want to encourage you that no matter what seemly impossible negative circumstances or situations that you may find yourself in presently (or in the future) GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY. HE is able to restore you back to HIS original purpose and plan for your life...."

And I guess because i was raised in a religious family I never thought about it before. But why is it so essential to almost every religious person I know to enforce this belief?

How essential is it for people to feel loved by God in this way? Is this sense of being loved by a greater being the reason why people are drawn to religion - seeking out acceptance and love, especially if life doesn't seem to give it to you.
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Eric7216 said:
I think that you are making a mountain out of a molehill. I have never been a Christian but I do a lot of volunteer work with them and have never heard this-they all keep their religious beliefs to themselves. I think that people join churches in the same way they join political parties or social groups and that is they are seeking a sense of belonging and social connection.
And if some Christian talks about how god loves you I suspect that is better than being called a racist, moron, stupid, or any of the other names that members of other groups say to non-members.
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I'm just discussing something that interested me - I suppose things just tend to feel predisposed to 'debate mode' around here.
 
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SheWolf said:
I am guessing that they are trying to actively fight negative perceptions of Christianity and Christians... :shrug:
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It's the doctrine!

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countryboy said:
Yes, you are correct, God is God. But, He is also a person. Of course, He is not a person like we are people, but He did condescend to cloak Himself in human flesh, and could again at any time if He wished.

Most people who call themselves Christian, believe that Jesus is fully God, and fully man.
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Of course, the bible specifically says God is not a man, nor is God the son of man. Malachi 3:6 states God does not change, as does Psalms 102:27

so,

Numbers 23:19 says God is not man, nor is god the son of man
Hosea 11:9 says God is not a man.
1 Samual 15:29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.

Jesus is consistanlty being referred to as "Son of man', which basically means he is a man. The Jewish scriptures specifically states God does not change, and God is not a man, or the son of man. Therefore, Jesus is not God.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Or even amongst themselves - to each other.

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I was fussing with some book publishing tonight and noticed a book on the new release list in which the author states in the preface: "...I want to encourage you that no matter what seemly impossible negative circumstances or situations that you may find yourself in presently (or in the future) GOD LOVES YOU UNCONDITIONALLY. HE is able to restore you back to HIS original purpose and plan for your life...."

And I guess because i was raised in a religious family I never thought about it before. But why is it so essential to almost every religious person I know to enforce this belief?

How essential is it for people to feel loved by God in this way? Is this sense of being loved by a greater being the reason why people are drawn to religion - seeking out acceptance and love, especially if life doesn't seem to give it to you.
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I think many, many people have such self-doubt, lack of confidence, even self hatred for things they've done. Mistakes, inadequacy, guilt. Why are so many young girls turning to cutting? They may feel that they are inferior, useless, their life is a waste of time. Somehow people feel that by self-harm they are doing to themselves what they truly deserve, and this is such a tragedy. It's hard to reach a person once they are in this dilemma but religion offers an effective way out, it gives a person the opportunity to recover by teaching the tenets such as forgiveness. Such ideas are simple and can be taught to anyone.
 
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