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Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and that’s not a joke

29A said:
No doubt, there are some of those.
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Thanks.



I care when it affects me.
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I do too but nit often do people's beliefs affect me.

As far as Muslims/Islam goes, there is of course no recognized hierarchical head, one must go by what the majority does.

Leading up to 2008, the OIC led the charge on UNHRC Resolution 7/19, Combating the defamation of religions. The resolution was adopted. It is dangerous development, and contrary to the principle of free speech, recognized not only in the USA's First Amendment, but in the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
http://ap.ohchr.org/documents/E/HRC/resolutions/A_HRC_RES_7_19.pdf
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yeah, but if they worship God in their mosque and refrain from pork, I don't really care.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Persecution complex. He attacks everybody that doesn't affirm his beliefs. It's because he doesn't really believe it.

Most of my friends that are atheist are as you described.

Some people have very weak faith and in order to build it up they have to blame others for its weakness. They do this by attacking people that don't agree with them.
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"Persecution complex"

+1 that sounds about right.
 
it's just me said:
I think you're reading more inro this than was there. When the study says that human beings are hardwired to seek patterns it tells me that even atheists aren't immune.
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What study? The "studies" are opinion polls genius.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Persecution complex. He attacks everybody that doesn't affirm his beliefs. It's because he doesn't really believe it.

Most of my friends that are atheist are as you described.

Some people have very weak faith and in order to build it up they have to blame others for its weakness. They do this by attacking people that don't agree with them.
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Project much?
 
it's just me said:
WHILE MILITANT ATHEISTS like Richard Dawkins may be convinced God doesn’t exist, God, if he is around, may be amused to find that atheists might not exist.

Cognitive scientists are becoming increasingly aware that a metaphysical outlook may be so deeply ingrained in human thought processes that it cannot be expunged.

While this idea may seem outlandish—after all, it seems easy to decide not to believe in God—evidence from several disciplines indicates that what you actually believe is not a decision you make for yourself. Your fundamental beliefs are decided by much deeper levels of consciousness, and some may well be more or less set in stone.

This line of thought has led to some scientists claiming that “atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think,” says Graham Lawton, an avowed atheist himself, writing in the New Scientist. “They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul.”

This shouldn’t come as a surprise, since we are born believers, not atheists, scientists say. Humans are pattern-seekers from birth, with a belief in karma, or cosmic justice, as our default setting. “A slew of cognitive traits predisposes us to faith,” writes Pascal Boyer in Nature, the science journal, adding that people “are only aware of some of their religious ideas”.


Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and that?s not a joke
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I need to look into this
 
Luftwaffe said:
You're right, atheists do believe in something.

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I think you mean fake science

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Luftwaffe said:
NDT is a self proclaimed agnostic and made it clear he isn't in line with atheists.
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No he made it clear that he didnt want to be called an atheist because "it causes people to make all sorts of unflattering (and often untrue) assumptions"

He thinks faith and science are contradictory viewpoints, theres no agnosticism about that hes a full blown atheist
 
it's just me said:
I think you're reading more inro this than was there. When the study says that human beings are hardwired to seek patterns it tells me that even atheists aren't immune.
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I have to wonder about you. This is a study, actually a poll, and you think it is sdufficient to rely upon???
 
it's just me said:
I don't think the article says that.



I think what the article was saying was that atheists still believe something, regardless of what they tell you. I have always thought that atheism and "hostile to religion" are two different things.
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Since I am an ateist "by dictionary definition" and I am not hostile to religion, I am certain they are two different things
 
it's just me said:
Well, I was a little confused by that one, too, but I also think that some people who self-identify as "atheist" protesteth too much.
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what random numerical odds. what the H*** does that mean?
 
29A said:
Truly and deeply believe that religion has a powerful effect on politics, etc. there, fixed that for you. One can hardly read the news without hearing about how some religious group wants to effect public policy or avoid a duly enacted law for religious reasons.

"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
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and that has absolutely nothing to do with atheism. that is anti govenment.
 
It's like listening to the death cries of the neanderthals.
 
Moderator's Warning:
The personal comments and baiting need to stop. Please keep your posts topical.

As to the OP's topic, it is better suited to the Philosophy forum.
 
doniston said:
I have to wonder about you. This is a study, actually a poll, and you think it is sdufficient to rely upon???
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I don't need a poll to tell me what I already know.
 
it's just me said:
WHILE MILITANT ATHEISTS like Richard Dawkins may be convinced God doesn’t exist, God, if he is around, may be amused to find that atheists might not exist.

Cognitive scientists are becoming increasingly aware that a metaphysical outlook may be so deeply ingrained in human thought processes that it cannot be expunged.

While this idea may seem outlandish—after all, it seems easy to decide not to believe in God—evidence from several disciplines indicates that what you actually believe is not a decision you make for yourself. Your fundamental beliefs are decided by much deeper levels of consciousness, and some may well be more or less set in stone.

This line of thought has led to some scientists claiming that “atheism is psychologically impossible because of the way humans think,” says Graham Lawton, an avowed atheist himself, writing in the New Scientist. “They point to studies showing, for example, that even people who claim to be committed atheists tacitly hold religious beliefs, such as the existence of an immortal soul.”

This shouldn’t come as a surprise, since we are born believers, not atheists, scientists say. Humans are pattern-seekers from birth, with a belief in karma, or cosmic justice, as our default setting. “A slew of cognitive traits predisposes us to faith,” writes Pascal Boyer in Nature, the science journal, adding that people “are only aware of some of their religious ideas”.


Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and that?s not a joke
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Noam Chomsky's linguistic work on how human beings naturally and inherently organize the world is something you should look into if you're interested in this.
 
Jango said:
Well, I don't know if there is a God or not, but I do know that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. And while our body eventually falls to the ground lifeless, the energy within us, our consciousness I.e. our soul, by our understanding of physics, is transferred elsewhere. Whether or not it is religious in nature is, for all intents and purposes, unknown at this time. But I suspect that advancements in math and science will eventually prove or disprove the notion of an actual God as envisioned by billions of people.
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Consciousness =/= Energy ... Energy is a physical property, not a receiver of qualia.
 
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