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Why I think Jesus Didn't Exist: Historian Explains the Evidence That Changed His Mind

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Newly-Found Document Holds Eyewitness Account of Jesus Performing Miracle

Rome: An Italian expert studying a first century document written by the Roman historian Marcus Velleius Paterculus that was recently discovered in the archives of the Vatican, found what is presumed to be the first eyewitness account ever recorded of a miracle of Jesus Christ. The author describes a scene that he allegedly witnessed, in which a prophet and teacher that he names Iēsous de Nazarenus, resuscitated a stillborn boy and handed him back to his mother.

The text as a whole is a narrative of the author’s return journey from Parthia to Rome that occurred in 31 AD, recorded in a highly rhetorical style of four sheets of parchment. He describes many different episodes taking place during his trip, like a a violent sandstorm in Mesopotamia and visit to a temple in Melitta (modern day Mdina, in Malta).

The part of the text that really caught M. Perrucci’s attention is an episode taking place in the city of Sebaste (near modern day Nablus, in the West Bank). The author first describes the arrival of a great leader in the town with a group of disciples and followers, causing many of the lower class people from neighbouring villages to gather around them. According to Velleius, that great man’s name was Iēsous de Nazarenus, a Greco-Latin translation of Jesus’ Hebrew name, Yeshua haNotzri.

Upon entering town, Jesus would have visited the house of a woman named Elisheba, who had just given birth to a stillborn child. Jesus picked up the dead child and uttered a prayer in Aramaic to the heavens, which unfortunately the author describes as “immensus”, meaning incomprehensible. To the crowd’s surprise and amazement, the baby came back to life almost immediately, crying and squirming like a healthy newborn.

Many tests and analysis have been realized over the last weeks to determine the authenticity of the manuscript. The composition of the parchment and ink, the literary style and handwriting have all been carefully scrutinized and were considered to be entirely legitimate. The dating analysis also revealed that the sheepskin parchment on which the text is written, does indeed date from the 1st century of this era, more precisely from between 20-45 AD.

Newly-Found Document Holds Eyewitness Account of Jesus Performing Miracle

Found out that's from a satirical website. So scratch this article!
 
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This would be the first direct connection with original documentation of an eye witness other than those of the disciples. An interesting find. I wonder what else is buried in the archives of the Vatican?

The corpse of Jesus.
 
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"The Jesus Mysteries," by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy is also a great book that answers many of such questions on this topic. Although no longer believing in his divinity until a few years ago, reading this book dispelled the notions that he was even a real person at all. Very enlightening, but also alarming, for so many of my relationships growing up I still have today, and to say such things to most Americans in my circle of family and friends, most of them in the South, would bring nothing less than the wrath of the mob and retribution at home, the workplace, and in the community.
 
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Found out that's from a satirical website.

It is difficult to tell the difference.
 
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Very enlightening, but also alarming, for so many of my relationships growing up I still have today, and to say such things to most Americans in my circle of family and friends, most of them in the South, would bring nothing less than the wrath of the mob and retribution at home, the workplace, and in the community.

Move to Europe. No bible belt here. Not many people with religious mania.
 
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Ghandi, Edgar Cayce, Rasputin and Houdini existed as well.
 
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"The Jesus Mysteries," by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy is also a great book that answers many of such questions on this topic. Although no longer believing in his divinity until a few years ago, reading this book dispelled the notions that he was even a real person at all. Very enlightening, but also alarming, for so many of my relationships growing up I still have today, and to say such things to most Americans in my circle of family and friends, most of them in the South, would bring nothing less than the wrath of the mob and retribution at home, the workplace, and in the community.


I don't think that particular mythic book is very reliable. It tries to draw too many parallels with too little actual evidence.
 
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Move to Europe. No bible belt here. Not many people with religious mania.

There's plenty of religious People in Europe too.
 
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There's plenty of religious People in Europe too.

Agreed. But they don't go on and on about it in public. I have no idea if any of my friends and acquaintances are religious. The subject is never discussed. It is of no importance. There are no rabid TV evangelists here, urging you to touch the screen and send money. I live in Belgium and the last thing a politician would mention is god. American politicians seem obliged to mention god in every speech,as if god moved to the States with the Pilgrim Fathers. Why this god obsession in the USA?
 
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Found out that's from a satirical website. So scratch this article!

Just shows that you are gullible enough to believe anything.

It also shows how easily rumors and fake stories can spread especially when people want to believe something is true.
 
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Just shows that you are gullible enough to believe anything.

It also shows how easily rumors and fake stories can spread especially when people want to believe something is true.

You're the one who is gullible in not believing in Christ.
 
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You're the one who is gullible in not believing in Christ.

You were so willing to believe a totally fake story about a "newly discovered first century manuscript", you posted it without checking it. Hilarious. :ssst:
 
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You're the one who is gullible in not believing in Christ.

You're so gullible, you don't believe in Krishna.
 
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You were so willing to believe a totally fake story about a "newly discovered first century manuscript", you posted it without checking it. Hilarious.:

Watch out.

John 3:36
 
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So "logicman'.

I am a jew. Tell me exactly why, using logical arguments, properly numbered as to why i should accept Jesus as the Messiah. All logical fallacies (ad hominems, appeals to authority etc) will be rejected.
 
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So "logicman'.

I am a jew. Tell me exactly why, using logical arguments, properly numbered as to why i should accept Jesus as the Messiah. All logical fallacies (ad hominems, appeals to authority etc) will be rejected.
 
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So "logicman'.

I am a jew. Tell me exactly why, using logical arguments, properly numbered as to why i should accept Jesus as the Messiah. All logical fallacies (ad hominems, appeals to authority etc) will be rejected.

Don't og there dude, he's just gonne copy and paste something from the righter report, without actually understanding the arguments he's actually posting, or actually examining the scriptures ... trust me, look at every post he's done so far.
 
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So "logicman'.

I am a jew. Tell me exactly why, using logical arguments, properly numbered as to why i should accept Jesus as the Messiah. All logical fallacies (ad hominems, appeals to authority etc) will be rejected.

It's in the bible! Believe!
 
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Don't og there dude, he's just gonne copy and paste something from the righter report,

Accompanied by some bible quotes and boring preaching.
 
Re: Why I think Jesus Didn't Exist: Historian Explains the Evidence That Changed His

Don't og there dude, he's just gonne copy and paste something from the righter report, without actually understanding the arguments he's actually posting, or actually examining the scriptures ... trust me, look at every post he's done so far.

The righter report is one big mash of garbage, poorly written, and not understood by the author.
 
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