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We're Not Alone[W:102,300]

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There is no evidence that the building blocks of life came from another planet. In fact it is more likely it formed here in the early ocean.
I also believe that there have never been any aliens visiting the earth since the rise of humans. Before that there is no evidence for it but I assume it was possible that someone popped in. Now is there other life in the universe? No one knows for sure but it is highly likely. I believe we will find certain evidence of life outside of the earth soon.
 
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Paleocon said:
I'm 100% certain that no intelligent life exists on other planets, because the idea that they do is the a resurrected form of the heresy of antipodeanism.
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Well, since "heresy" is a concept that only believers care about, your statement carries about as much weight as someone who says that there's no life on other planets because their mommy told them so.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Ah, so anyone who believes that there could be alien civilizations is guilty of heresy.
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Yep.

Koros said:
Well, since "heresy" is a concept that only believers care about, your statement carries about as much weight as someone who says that there's no life on other planets because their mommy told them so.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself to continue believing in your imaginary tales.
 
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Sababa said:
There is no evidence that the building blocks of life came from another planet. In fact it is more likely it formed here in the early ocean.
I also believe that there have never been any aliens visiting the earth since the rise of humans. Before that there is no evidence for it but I assume it was possible that someone popped in. Now is there other life in the universe? No one knows for sure but it is highly likely. I believe we will find certain evidence of life outside of the earth soon.
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Pretty much proven facts:

1. Our water came from outer space via bombardment by millions of meteors.
2. Our salt arrived much the same way.
3. So did the amino acid chains which eventually formed DNA.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUyhqrJH9BQ
 
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Paleocon said:
Yep.



Whatever you need to tell yourself to continue believing in your imaginary tales.
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Pot, meet kettle.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
It is exceedingly unlikely that we're alone. I wouldn't say "impossible," simply out of desire to be precise -- that's a statement of certainty that we can't currently confirm, just like saying we're definitely alone would be. But I would be shocked if there were no other life in the universe. The odds of that are just astronomically small, given how many habitable planets there really are.

The most interesting question to me is two-fold:

1. What other configurations of life are there? What variations of DNA-like structures might we find? What building blocks and gases can creatures evolve to thrive on?

2. Will we find a species comparable or greater in intelligence to ourselves? This is especially interesting to me.

I may or may not live to see answers to either of those questions, and finding the answer to #2 in the affirmative is both exciting and scary (humans from different societies often can't even be nice to each other, so there is certainly risk in making contact with another highly intelligent species). But I'm so curious I kind of half hope I do.
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We're far more likely to just hear old radio frequency transmissions from thousands of years ago or something than actually make physical contact.
 
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Paleocon said:
I'm 100% certain that no intelligent life exists on other planets, because the idea that they do is the a resurrected form of the heresy of antipodeanism.
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The biggest discovery in my lifetime:

An amino acid has been found on a comet for the first time, a new analysis of samples from NASA's Stardust mission reveals. The discovery confirms that some of the building blocks of life were delivered to the early Earth from space.

Found: first amino acid on a comet - space - 17 August 2009 - New Scientist
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Logicman said:
There is other life in the universe: God, angels, the devil, etc.
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Why even make billions of universes in the first place then?

Seems like a huge waste of effort.

Or maybe just another trap to keep hell full of torture victims.
 
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Paleocon said:
Yep.



Whatever you need to tell yourself to continue believing in your imaginary tales.
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How old is the earth?
 
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What if...? said:
Why even make billions of universes in the first place then?

Seems like a huge waste of effort.

Or maybe just another trap to keep hell full of torture victims.
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There aren't billions of other universes.
 
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it's just me said:
Do you know what amazes the hell out of me?

It's the fact that most atheists will deny, declare, and get red in the face over the notion that there was no creative intelligence in the universe that guided it's formation - because there is no proof.

Then they will turn around and try to tell you that there is life elsewhere in the universe, even though there is no proof.
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I think there was an intelligence responsible.

I just don't believe it was jahweh.

He's a douchnozzle.
 
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calamity said:
How old is the earth?
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Google is your friend.

This forum's search feature is also your friend if you really want an answer from me.

I'm not going to continually answer basic scientific questions for people, when the answers are readily publicly available with a simple google search.
 
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Paleocon said:
Reality is life exists here only.
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Reality is there are billions of galaxies, each of them filled with billions of stars and planets, millions of which are probably just like ours.
 
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calamity said:
Most of us know this intrinsically. The Universe is rife with life. However, until we have concrete proof, many people will continue to deny its possibility...especially the flat-earthers who still believe the universe is 6000 years old. They will deny anything, regardless the proof, if it conflicts with their good book.

Bottom line though, with billions of galaxies and trillions of stars and perhaps trillions upon trillions of planets, it's impossible for there not to be life out there. Most of this is assured by the fact that our water came from outerspace as did the amino acids which formed dna and spawned the first living cells, all of it delivered to our little planet via the bombardment of meteors. Those findings created for me the slam-dunk moment.

Now, it's become even more of a lock, as NASA scientists agree: we are not alone.

We Are Not Alone In Universe, NASA Scientists Say


So, my question: is the jury still out, or are most of us in agreement: we are not alone?
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You say it's a possibility and that is probably accurate and then say it's a lock and that is possibly accurate.

Then you say that those who don;t accept it are flat Earthers.

There is no proof of extraterrestrial life and no proof of intelligent extraterrestrial life.

If there ever is, then that will be the story of year in whatever year it breaks. right now, it's science fiction.

NASA knows all about Global Warming and Alien life. The only thing they don't know how to do is put a man in outer space without using a Russian rocket.
 
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Paleocon said:
Google is your friend.

This forum's search feature is also your friend if you really want an answer from me.

I'm not going to continually answer basic scientific questions for people, when the answers are readily publicly available with a simple google search.
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I know the age of the earth, the sun and the universe. I'm wondering if you do. I suspect your answer will be off by a factor of about 1,000,000.
 
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calamity said:
Reality is there are billions of galaxies, each of them filled with billions of stars and planets, millions of which are probably just like ours.
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And yet no indication that there is other life.
 
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Paleocon said:
There aren't billions of other universes.
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Galaxies. My bad.

Of course some quantum physicists might disagree on the number of universe.
 
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calamity said:
I suspect your answer will be off by a factor of about 1,000,000.
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The idea that the universe is only a few thousand years old is nonsense. For all of the absurdities you adhere to, I didn't think you would adhere to that one.
 
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What if...? said:
Galaxies. My bad.

Of course some quantum physicists might disagree on the number of universe.
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I don't know why he created all of the galaxies. To suggest it was out of ill will is unfounded.

Get back to me about that when they have evidence of that position.
 
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Paleocon said:
The idea that the universe is only a few thousand years old is nonsense. For all of the absurdities you adhere to, I didn't think you would adhere to that one.
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So the bible isn't literal?

I thought the bible says the earth was created in six days six thousand years ago?
 
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code1211 said:
You say it's a possibility and that is probably accurate and then say it's a lock and that is possibly accurate.

Then you say that those who don;t accept it are flat Earthers.

There is no proof of extraterrestrial life and no proof of intelligent extraterrestrial life.

If there ever is, then that will be the story of year in whatever year it breaks. right now, it's science fiction.

NASA knows all about Global Warming and Alien life. The only thing they don't know how to do is put a man in outer space without using a Russian rocket.
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NASA put a man on the moon. Something Russians could not do. That makes them 3 for 3. :roll;
 
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What if...? said:
So the bible isn't literal?

I thought the bible says the earth was created in six days six thousand years ago?
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The literal sense is the primary sense in which scripture is interpreted. But the allegorical is also a means by which certain specific details can be interpreted which are not important to the point.
 
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Paleocon said:
The literal sense is the primary sense in which scripture is interpreted. But the allegorical is also a means by which certain specific details can be interpreted which are not important to the point.
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So sometimes its literal and sometimes its allegorical.

Is there some notation in the bible as to which is which? Why couldn't he be clearer?
 
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Paleocon said:
The idea that the universe is only a few thousand years old is nonsense. For all of the absurdities you adhere to, I didn't think you would adhere to that one.
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This universe is 14 billion years old. The other universes which created this one are much older. All of the universes combined probably span infinity...just like god would, if it existed.

Earth is about 4.54 billion years old; the sun, maybe 30-40 million years older than that. The moon is the result of us colliding with a planet the size of mars. Water probably came from the proto-planets out beyond Neptune smashing into us when Jupiter was much closer to the sun.
 
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