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Man is the ONLY species that seeks to preserve its weakest element.

Is this a good thing, or bad thing?

Or perhaps you disagree with the premise. Why?
 
Man is the ONLY species that seeks to preserve its weakest element.

Is this a good thing, or bad thing?

Or perhaps you disagree with the premise. Why?

To what, exactly are you referring? Are you saying old people need to be put out on an ice floe to die?
 
Disagree

Elephants Mourning (54 sec vid)
NatGeo: Elephants Mourning [their Matriarch]
Just how aware are these elephants? Some scientists think they may cry when sad, just like humans.

Animals regularly protect their young and the pack/herd in general.
Males/Bulls/etc oft placing themselves in the forward/perimeter or strategically important defensive positions.
 
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Man's weakest element is democrats.
 
Disagree

Elephants Mourning (54 sec vid)
NatGeo: Elephants Mourning [their Matriarch]
Just how aware are these elephants? Some scientists think they may cry when sad, just like humans.

Animals regularly protect their young and the pack/herd in general.
Males/Bulls/etc oft placing themselves in the forward/perimeter or strategically important defensive positions.

I do believe many animals do experience grief and do mourn the loss of companions that they have an instinctive or emotional connection to. So far as we know, humans are the only species, however, to have concern for other species or even their own species that they do not know. IMO it is one of our greatest blessings and strengths and will probably be to our overall detriment as we do not seek to reproduce ourselves with our brightest and best.
 
I do believe many animals do experience grief and do mourn the loss of companions that they have an instinctive or emotional connection to. So far as we know, humans are the only species, however, to have concern for other species or even their own species that they do not know. IMO it is one of our greatest blessings and strengths and will probably be to our overall detriment as we do not seek to reproduce ourselves with our brightest and best.
I not only acknowledge this, but have previously addressed/advocated it.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/scien...argely-genetic-w-957-a-51.html#post1060479747

mbig 5/10/12 said:
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But you point to a relatively new development that could indeed lead us back down the IQ scale. I suspect it's happening as we speak.
And you're pointing to an evolutionary Exception, Not the rule (another fallacious tactic) of Billions of years of predation and survival of the fittest.
Certainly This was Not the case until well after Our specie evolved and into mere recent micro-time. Where things like First World Charity are Nursing/procreating Tens/Hundreds of millions in the Third.

Tucker said:
Now, some people like to cite the positive correlation between IQ and longevity/mortality to counter that, but evolution is not about longevity and mortality, it's about procreating successfully and having the young live long enough to do so themselves. A person who lives to 75 and has no kids is an evolutionary failure, while a person who only lives to 25 but has 7 kids who eventually combine for 49 grand-kids is an evolutionary success story. Big time.
No, evolution of the more highly intelligent would be not only be conscious of the amount of male sons, but of the planet's constraints.
The epitomy of IQ/evolution may very well be a static population who realizes their limits as opposed to the 'Easter Island' hustle. Again, It's an interesting and only very very modern quandary I'm sure some have noticed.

This modern quandary of higher reproduction of the lesser intelligent could lead to world say, of great inequality of income and concentrated wealth. Hmmmm.
And say places where wealth and the middle class is increasing? China. Hmmm. (and others not)
The latter where people were 'smart' enough to realize this modern new problem and institute a 'one child' policy. Hmmmm.
The planet Rampant with Confirmation.
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Humans don't "seek to preserve its weakest element". Humans feel compassion and empathy. Sometimes that compels us to help others.

Evolution doesn't necessarily beget extreme selfishness at all costs. In fact, in highly social animals, some degree of cooperation and altruism is often a better strategy. Which is precisely how we came to be this way.
 
Disagree

Elephants Mourning (54 sec vid)
NatGeo: Elephants Mourning [their Matriarch]
Just how aware are these elephants? Some scientists think they may cry when sad, just like humans.

Animals regularly protect their young and the pack/herd in general.
Males/Bulls/etc oft placing themselves in the forward/perimeter or strategically important defensive positions.

Interesting take on the question. I do think that most species will take care of their young, but there are also situations where the "runts" of the litter are discarded.
 
Interesting take on the question. I do think that most species will take care of their young, but there are also situations where the "runts" of the litter are discarded.
Us too!
Both Now and Earlier.
There's the aborting of unhealthy babies (runts) and, alas, post birth infanticide.

Google "killing female babies"
First 10:
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...pv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=killing female babies

Infanticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide
Wikipedia
Comparative anthropologists have calculated that
50% of female newborn babies were killed by their parents during the Paleolithic era. Decapitated skeletons ...
‎Neonaticide - ‎Infanticide (zoology) - ‎Infanticide Act - ‎Infanticide Act 1938

Female infanticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide
Wikipedia
Female infanticide is the deliberate killing of newborn female children or the....
Buddhist nunneries created "baby towers" for people to leave a child; it is ...
‎Americas - ‎Europe - ‎China - ‎India

BBC - Ethics - Abortion: Female infanticide
http://www.debatepolitics.com/philo...ussions/www.bbc.co.uk/.../infanticide_1.shtml
British Broadcasting Corporation
Infanticide is the unlawful killing of very young children. It is found in both ...
Female infanticide is the deliberate killing of girl babies. It is also described as ...

A Deadly Preference For Male Offspring: The Killing Of Baby Girls...
www.ibtimes.com/deadly-preference-male-o...
International Business Times
by Palash R. Ghosh - Sep 16, 2013 -
South Asia's endless and brutal war against its female population took another ghastly turn last week
when a Pakistani man admitted to ...


Parents in India Kill 11 Girl Babies in Infanticides Hoping for a Boy
...
Sep 22, 2013 - Parents in India Kill 11 Girl Babies in Infanticides Hoping for a Boy ...
“[that] raises global awareness concerning the loss of female lives in India, ...

History of Infanticide
History of Infanticide
Darwin believed that infanticide, "especially of female infants," was the most important ....
killed their children, however, the victim was usually a newborn baby or ...

Gendercide Watch: Female Infanticide

Gendercide Watch: Female Infanticide
"Female infanticide is the intentional killing of baby girls due to the preference for male babies
and from the low value associated with the birth of females.

Female Infanticide in India and China
Female Infanticide in India and China
Killing baby girls, or allowing them to starve to death, is something most of us cannot ...
Families in these cultures may decide to kill their female children either ...

India's Cradle Babies Program Hopes to End Female Infanticide...
http://www.debatepolitics.com/philo...oanews.com/...babies...female.../1802328.html
Voice of America
Dec 3, 2013 - She added that a lack of education, the low status of girls and widespread poverty
were the main factors why girl babies were killed or dumped ...

"It's a Girl": The three Deadliest words in the world ...
blogs.independent.co.uk › Independent Blogs
The Independent
Jan 18, 2012 - India and China are said to eliminate more female infants than the ...
in which unwanted female babies are aborted, killed or abandoned.

From the last link above:
"The statistics are sickening. The UN reports approximately 200 million girls in the world today are ‘missing’.
India and China are said to Eliminate more Female infants than the number of girls Born in the US each year.
 
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